Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Carrying the Weight ~ Responsibility ~ Saturn

Recently I've been playing a particular CD over and over again as I surf the net and type, type and surf. Symphonic Beatles it's called. The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Louis Clark plays classic interpretations of 15 Beatles' numbers. As a result of this CD I'm a late-coming fan of that odd little medley which closes the famous Beatles album Abbey Road. Never having been a fan of the Liverpool lads when they were at their zenith, I've only come to appreciate their music - and interpretations of it - since arriving on these shores.

Anyway - that odd little medley includes Carry that Weight (see video below) -
Boy, you're gonna carry that weight
Carry that weight a long time
Boy, you're gonna carry that weight
Carry that weight a long time
Sources on the net offer the theory that Paul McCartney wrote the song, as a shout to John Lennon that because of his breaking up the band due to his liaison with Yoko Ono, he was going to have to "carry the weight", of having killed off THE BEATLES, for the rest of his life. Another theory is that the song also refers to Paul's own situation after Brian Epstein died. Paul then started managing the band, and realized what a huge undertaking that was. He had to "carry the weight" of running this (soon to become) iconic band.

So the little Carry That Weight ditty is basically all about responsibility. In astrology the concept of responsibility is generally thought to connect to planet Saturn, zodiac sign Capricorn and 10th house. I see the sign of Virgo being rather tightly involved too. It'd be a very diluted Virgo-type who didn't take any responsibility they might encounter in life, or have foisted upon them, very seriously indeed.

"Responsibility: A detachable burden easily shifted to the shoulders of God, Fate, Fortune, Luck or one's neighbor. In the days of astrology it was customary to unload it upon a star." ~Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary, 1911.

20th century UK astrologer C.E.O. Carter in his Encyclopaedia of Psychological Astrology wrote this:
Responsibility (Sense of) is due to a strong and well-placed Saturn. Whether there is the ability to bear the responsibilities placed upon the native will largely depend upon the strength of the entire horoscope. A prominent Saturn, whether strong or not, nearly always denotes that responsibilities will be encountered.

Irresponsibility is mainly a Jovian feature (i.e. linked to Jupiter) and especially is connected with Pisces, although it is doubtful if Neptune rising always gives a childlike inability to shoulder burdens. Afflictions to Saturn, especially from Mars, or to Saturn placed in Aries, tend to weaken the sense of responsibility. On the other hand, Saturn in Water feels its burdens too much, and is often driven to renunciation in consequence.

I have Saturn in Aries, but without any definite afflictions - a trine from Venus is helpful. There could be a square aspect to my natal ascending degree in Cancer, but the exact degree isn't certain. My birth time is known only to within an hour or so; the astrologer who carried out a rectification told me that he was not certain of the exact rising degree of Cancer. However, I do have a fairly strong sense of responsibility. This is likely connected to Sun in Aquarius (traditionally ruled by Saturn), with Mercury in Saturn-ruled Capricorn, and a Grand Trine linking Earth signs Capricorn, Taurus and Virgo.

The track that inspired this post:


Diane said...

Not a fan of their "I wanna hold your hand" phase but by the time Abbey Road and the famous White Album were produced I was an admirer. There was so much great [to me] music back then, both UK and USA. To this day however I've never discovered why UK singers lose their accent when they sing. As for responsibility, I'm a Capricorn and still trying to figure it out. LCE: great quality posts every day this week but this is the first opportunity I've had to comment. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

GP: The link between sense of responsibility and Saturn appears dubious to me. No doubt that who has Saturn prominent in his map may be more prudent in his actions - thus appearing more responsible.

But let's not call virtue a (self-imposed) limitation of exploring opportunity...

Twilight said...

Diane ~~ Thank you kindly Diane!

Yes, I've often wondered about the accent and singing. Elton John sounds very Americanised in song-mode, for instance. Occasionally it's possible to detect a Liverpudlian twang in eg. early Beatles, and Gerry & the Pacemakers - that was when they were all fresh, young and innocent I guess. :-)

Twilight said...

Anonymous/Gian Paul ~~~

Hmmm - there's a thought upon which to ponder!

I suppose Saturn is involved (as Mr Carter indicated) due to its connection with structure, discipline and perseverence....and career - 10th house public standing....etc. But we know (to our cost) that public standing does not = responsibility.
at least not often in the USA.

You raise an interesting point. I did originally go along, more or less, (gut feeling) with what Mr Carter wrote, but now I'm not so sure.

where would you think a sense of responsibility is to be found in the chart (if at all) GP?

I'm sure a strong Virgo-type would have sense of responsibility strongly emphasised in their makeup. Saturn will retain a big ? :-)

Wisewebwoman said...

Good post. I was a fan of the Beatles from the get-go due to dating one of their best friends (from Liverpool studying at my city's university) who tuned me on to them.
Revolutionary music at the time for the teenager I was.

Anonymous said...

GP: Sense of responsibility I think is related to having good taste. Thus a generally harmonious natal map will be conducive to aquiring and persisting in and defending both such qualities.

They don't come automatically. But some natal inclination such as love of harmony is certainly a good foundation to be building on. And there is where Saturn comes in, if he is NOT TOO RESTRICTIVE and Jupiter, if he is NOT TOO EXUBERANT.

Twilight said...

WWW ~~~ Ah, well you were "in the loop" then. I was way out of it, and used to look on their songs as "jingles". I've learnt better since though. ;-)

Twilight said...

Anonymous/Gian Paul ~~~

Hmmm - yes. I see what you're getting at.

I wonder if it'd be easier (or clearer) to identify a potential for irresponsibility in a chart?
Perhaps there's the potential for responsibility - in one area or another - in all of us. EG. someone who is a bit devil-may-care at work could be a highly responsible parent....and so on.

A generally irresponisble person - careless at work, careless at home and in social interaction....hmmmm. Don't know. Maybe just a really badly integrated chart.

James Higham said...

What's a "a trine from Venus"?

Twilight said...

James Higham ~~~ sorry - yes, I should have clarified that. A trine is a 120 degree aspect from one planet to another. (Trine = 3 = 3x120 = 360 degrees - the circle of the natal chart).

Such aspects are thought to be beneficial, harmonious rather than antagonistic. A challenging or antagonistice aspect is the square - a 90 degree aspect, which normally links incompatible elements (Fire and Water for instance).

So, Saturn in Aries in my chart has a trine (within less than 8 degrees) from Venus in Sagittarius - both Fire signs.

A milder helpful aspect is the sextile - a 60 degree link between planets in signs that are compatible but not of the same "element": e.g. Fire and Air or Water and Earth.