A brief exchange between two commenters at Common Dreams at the weekend got my astrological juices flowing. The exchange was part of a conversation on a piece about the parlous state of the American electoral/political system, its downward slide, virtually hijacked by corporate financing, made even worse by the Supreme Court's decision on the Citizens United case, and how the "progressives" of the USA seem unable to do anything to turn the tide. Here
Contrary to some opinion I've heard and read (that it was during Ronald Reagan's reign when things started to go south for ordinary working folks in the US, and the slide hasn't stopped since) there's another, wider, perspective worth thinking about.
Clip from exchange between commenters "the puffin" and "Michael Desautels":
I haven't ever looked at the chart of the exact time of John F. Kennedy's assasination, though in common with all who recall that day, I do remember where I was at the time the killing was announced on radio in the UK.
Here's the chart for 22 November 1963 at 12:30PM, Dallas, Texas.
Was there, embedded in this moment - the moment described astrologically by the chart above - the seed of defeat for all future attempts to swing American politics more in the direction of respect and support for working people, a compassionate approach, provision of a national healthcare system, and a safety net for those who fall on hard times?
These thoughts are simply thoughts, wonderings.....about a single moment in time. We are not absolutely certain when the political slide began. Some say it has been in place since the USA was constituted in the 18th century. I choose not to bring any of the standard USA charts into play though. There are too many of them - too many variables.
So back to the assassination chart.
Anything relating to progressive politics must link to Uranus and/or Aquarius. Destruction or the aim to destroy - human being or ideology - links to what the ancients called "the malefics" - Saturn, Mars, and in modern times we look on Pluto as malefic, or at best transformational, too.
Uranus and Pluto were within a few degrees of one another that day, but had been so for some time previously and would remain so for long after. So although that seems to be a "flag", it's not specific to the moment. The Yod (Finger of Fate) was specific to that moment though. Moon and Saturn were close together in Aquarius (Uranus's ruling sign) and close to the ascendant angle (horizon), Jupiter was in sextile to Moon/Saturn from Aries. Jupiter has often been noted as emphasised in charts connected with death, oddly enough (something that makes me wonder if its interpretation needs a do-over!) Those sextiled planets link via 150* angles to Uranus/Pluto. I can't give a definitive interpretation of this particular formation but it's spookily appropriate that the signs and planets I mentioned above as relating to progressive politics and death/transformation would turn out to be a part of it.
One more sidelight, which may or may not be significant: Fixed Star Zosma (about which I wrote a post HERE), is not known as being much of a benefic, and was conjunct Uranus at the time of the assassination.
Without getting into the hairy question of "who done it", or the motive involved, it seems that, as well as losing a president in that moment, America also lost all hope of ever attaining a balanced and just electoral and political system, fair for all of the nation's citizens, not weighted towards a favoured 1%?
The USA is in a bind. Corporate funding of electoral candidates, and corporate power over virtually all US media make it extremely difficult, impossible now, for a third party to arise and prosper. Or even for a brave Democrat or Republican to step forward and challenge status quo. They would be ignored, discredited - or worse (see above). To eliminate corporate money from elections would call for legislation. Those who make the laws are bought by the corporations. Isn't that Catch 22 - or something near to it?
Contrary to some opinion I've heard and read (that it was during Ronald Reagan's reign when things started to go south for ordinary working folks in the US, and the slide hasn't stopped since) there's another, wider, perspective worth thinking about.
Clip from exchange between commenters "the puffin" and "Michael Desautels":
..because of the Citizens' United decision, the electoral process is no longer a viable option, much the same as pulling a ripcord at 60 feet.
It would have worked, if we'd pulled it when freefall began, like maybe after JFK was iced."
MD responded:
In my opinion, 1963 was a de-facto coup d'etat, and we have never recovered.
I haven't ever looked at the chart of the exact time of John F. Kennedy's assasination, though in common with all who recall that day, I do remember where I was at the time the killing was announced on radio in the UK.
Here's the chart for 22 November 1963 at 12:30PM, Dallas, Texas.
Was there, embedded in this moment - the moment described astrologically by the chart above - the seed of defeat for all future attempts to swing American politics more in the direction of respect and support for working people, a compassionate approach, provision of a national healthcare system, and a safety net for those who fall on hard times?
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.
John F. Kennedy
These thoughts are simply thoughts, wonderings.....about a single moment in time. We are not absolutely certain when the political slide began. Some say it has been in place since the USA was constituted in the 18th century. I choose not to bring any of the standard USA charts into play though. There are too many of them - too many variables.
So back to the assassination chart.
Anything relating to progressive politics must link to Uranus and/or Aquarius. Destruction or the aim to destroy - human being or ideology - links to what the ancients called "the malefics" - Saturn, Mars, and in modern times we look on Pluto as malefic, or at best transformational, too.
Uranus and Pluto were within a few degrees of one another that day, but had been so for some time previously and would remain so for long after. So although that seems to be a "flag", it's not specific to the moment. The Yod (Finger of Fate) was specific to that moment though. Moon and Saturn were close together in Aquarius (Uranus's ruling sign) and close to the ascendant angle (horizon), Jupiter was in sextile to Moon/Saturn from Aries. Jupiter has often been noted as emphasised in charts connected with death, oddly enough (something that makes me wonder if its interpretation needs a do-over!) Those sextiled planets link via 150* angles to Uranus/Pluto. I can't give a definitive interpretation of this particular formation but it's spookily appropriate that the signs and planets I mentioned above as relating to progressive politics and death/transformation would turn out to be a part of it.One more sidelight, which may or may not be significant: Fixed Star Zosma (about which I wrote a post HERE), is not known as being much of a benefic, and was conjunct Uranus at the time of the assassination.
Without getting into the hairy question of "who done it", or the motive involved, it seems that, as well as losing a president in that moment, America also lost all hope of ever attaining a balanced and just electoral and political system, fair for all of the nation's citizens, not weighted towards a favoured 1%?
The USA is in a bind. Corporate funding of electoral candidates, and corporate power over virtually all US media make it extremely difficult, impossible now, for a third party to arise and prosper. Or even for a brave Democrat or Republican to step forward and challenge status quo. They would be ignored, discredited - or worse (see above). To eliminate corporate money from elections would call for legislation. Those who make the laws are bought by the corporations. Isn't that Catch 22 - or something near to it?
