Tuesday, November 24, 2009


We've moved into the zodiac sign of Sagittarius (November 22 - December 23 give or take a day, as it can vary year by year).

If I had to pick a favourite sign, this would be it.
Sagittarius the sign mind you, not "A Sagittarius" the shorthand form for a person born with Sun in Sagittarius. Such a person might well be an embodiment of all that's best in the sign. Then again, they might have conflicting astrological input bringing in a whole different tone. That particular Sun Sagittarian might seem like a stranger in a strange land.

Sagittarius, the sign, seems to have all the advantages with none of the negative draw-backs other signs seem to suffer from. One slight problem though is its neighbours. Intense Scorpio on one side and strict disciplinarian, Capricorn on the other. This means that natives of Sagittarius land - those already mentioned, born when the Sun was in this sign, might find themselves with Mercury and/or Venus in Scorpio, and/or Capricorn. This would put a distinct damper on their general 'Saggie' air of bonhomie and devil-may-care.

My aunt Lil was the only Sun in Sagittarius person I've known well, and I wrote about her last year. This year I'll borrow a brief description of Sun in Sagittarius from a British astrologer of long ago, Llewellyn George, as set out in his book "Student Chart Reader" (1934).

In Sagittarius the Sun gives a jovial, bright, hopeful, generous and charitable nature: self-reliant, active, enterprising, frank, outspoken, honest, ambitious, persevering and not easily discouraged. Loves liberty, freedom and out-of-doors sports; dislikes a master and will not be driven. Generally has a strong will and is sincere, honorable, earnest, aspiring, energetic, and what he says goes right to the mark. Shows reverence for philosophy and science, has good calculation and foresight and is usually prophetic as to the outcome of movements or enterprises.
Jupiter is planetary ruler of the sign Sagittarius.

Those are all admirable qualities aren't they? The only one I'd question, just a wee bit, is "persevering and not easily discouraged" - which smacks more of a Fixed sign, whereas Sagittarius is Mutable. Perhaps in Sagittarius' case this trait springs more from optimism than doggedness of purpose, as it does for Fixed signs, Aquarius, Taurus, Leo and Scorpio. Interest in religion is part of Sagittarius which in the above brief assessment was probably covered obliquely by "reverence for philosophy".

I see quite a few similarities between Aquarius and Sagittarius. Sagittarius is a Fire sign though, warm, physical and outgoing in general whereas Aquarius is cool and reserved, mentally oriented. Otherwise I think they are probably more alike than almost any other two zodiac signs. But that's just the way I see it - others would probably disagree.

English professor and novelist C.S. Lewis, author of The Chronicles of Narnia and The Space Trilogy, as well as many other works, was born with Sun, Mercury, Venus, Saturn and Uranus in Sagittarius. Religion, Christianity, played an important part in his life. Its values were fed to his young readers in easily accessible form, though perhaps often unrecognised as such. (Look - there's Sagittarius, the centaur in the illustration below!)

A quote of C.S. Lewis which sums up, for me, the optimism of Sagittarius:
This is one of the miracles of love: It gives a power of seeing through its own enchantments and yet not being disenchanted.


Laura said...

I certainly agree that Sagittarians are outspoken and not easily discouraged. My Brother bears this sign and possesses these qualities.

Jason said...

As a double Sag (Sun & Rising) with Mercury, Venus and Neptune in Sag. I can definitely appreciate this.

Wisewebwoman said...

Blast T, it just lost my entire long comment. I'll have to rethink...

Twilight said...

Laura and Jason ~~~ Hi there - Glad you found it apt and of interest. :-)

Twilight said...

WWW ~~~ Oh - I hate it when that happens!

pbb said...

i wish i could understand all your knowledge about signs. it's all very new to me- having been a total sceptic except for a few strange coincidences in my lifetime. I'm more willing to learn than i used to be.

i've been very close to a Sagittarian (i hope i'm not totally misunderstanding this as you said it's the sign, not the person)............but it seems very much in line with what i have perceived of this person. On the one hand it all surprises me, but on the other, i think i've always compartmentalised people wordlessly, and this way seems to compliment it, make some sense.

I'll shut up as i may be wittering on !:-)

it's fascinating stuff, - i will try to apply myself!

thanks for your words and research

Twilight said...

pbb ~~ Hi there!

I understand how confusing it can be at first - I have to pull myself up often after getting totally muddled.

What I said about "the sign" and "the person" is a tricky one to explain, but if you think of the signs as kind of countries it helps.

Say you met a French man - he'd have certain traits in common with other French men, but would still be unique, so calling him a French man would only tell you part of who he was.

It has become such a handy way of describing people by their natal Sun sign as "a Sagittarian", "a Taurean", or whatever, that it gets forgotten often that we are a blend of many factors, not solely attributable to the Sun's position. Granted though, the Sun's position is very important, but the traits of the Sun sign are almost always modified by the rest of the chart, especially Moon position and whatever sign was rising at birth.

But for many years I was guided by Sun sign alone, and, as you say, the traits of that sign are often recognisable if you know the person quite well.

Sun sign information is a good way to get to know the traits of the 12 zodiac signs, and is always helpful if you want to delve deeper..

I hope you continue to find astrology interesting. :-)

pbb said...

Thanks Twilight!
I like your explanation.............
- a bit like colours and what makes them up...you might be orange but you're a bit of red, a bit of yellow too.........maybe even a bit of brown, but predominantly orange............
nope,now i AM wittering.

Twilight said...

pbb ~~~ Yes, that's the idea - another good way to describe it - I've used that description myself on occasion too, and you're certainly not wittering!!

Anonymous said...

"In Sagittarius the Sun gives a jovial, bright, hopeful, generous and charitable nature: self-reliant, active, enterprising, frank, outspoken, honest, ambitious, persevering and not easily discouraged. Loves liberty, freedom and out-of-doors sports; dislikes a master and will not be driven."

I am a Sagittarius but i do not have any of those qualities

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Twilight said...

Anonymous ~~~ Hi!
That doesn't surprise me.
As I said early in the post, and say every time I write a post about a zodiac sign, just because a persons's Sun is in a sign doesn't guarantee they will have every trait astrologers connect to that sign. So much depends on the rest of the natal chart.

You probably have conflicting Moon or rising sign, or a cluster of planets in another sign, giving you a different "flavour".

I could say the same about myself, Aquarian Sun. My Cancer rising and Aries Moon bring in other traits not connected to Aquarius, and sometimes even drown out Aquarian traits quoted by textbooks.

This is why Sun sign astrology can be very misleading. But knowledge of what each zodiac sign means is essential.

Thanks for the link, but I don't do Facebook, so can't access it.