Tuesday, November 01, 2016


Snip from website of astrologer Marjorie Orr on 29 October, under the heading
Hillary’s private emails and the FBI – beyond rational understanding
“Do we actually know who told Hillary she could use a private email?” wrote close aide and transition team member Neera Tanden in a July 2015 note recently revealed by WikiLeaks. “And has that person been drawn and quartered? Like [this] whole thing is fucking insane.”
[Ms Orr}:....... nowadays we find out just how hair-raisingly bizarre/ill-judged/incompetent/arrogantly obstinate our erstwhile leaders are, almost immediately.

Ms Orr goes on to comment on the natal chart of Huma Abedin, another longtime close aide and friend of Hillary Clinton. Abedin has been at the centre of this weekend's news and noise. FBI director James Comey announced that the FBI is, once again, investigating the matter of Hillary Clinton's e-mails. New York Police Department, during their own investigation of Abedin's estranged husband, Anthony Weiner and his alleged misdeeds on the net, had reported that a trove of Abedin's e-mails were discovered on devices seized from Weiner relevant to their investigation. No need, I'm sure to regurgitate detail of the weekend's news, it's still all over the net and no doubt on TV and radio also.

I decided I'd throw in a 12 noon natal chart for Huma Abedin though, just for the record. Marjorie Orr's comments on the chart are at the above link to her website.

Lots of Leo! Lots of fixedness! I don't much like natal Jupiter a degree from fixed star Algol - the demon star! I wonder if her Moon is in Leo or Virgo? I'd guess Leo. Virgo Moon would have been more careful with each and every step when dealing with sensitive e-mail - especially with a husband like hers rampant on the net.

Some writers surmise that the laptop on which a huge trove of Abedin's e-mail has been discovered was once used jointly with her husband, disgraced former politician Anthony Weiner, he of the peinis pics and other unpleasantnesses. A Virgo Moon would have remembered that her mails had been stored on that lap-top, and would have dealt with the matter appropriately. When the inquiry into Clinton's private e-mail server began, a Virgo Moon would have disclosed that this laptop might hold relevant material. A Virgo Moon would not have "forgotten" or been surprised, or would "not know how it got there"! Goodness me!

The whole scenario is, as Marjorie Orr remarked above, "hair-raisingly bizarre". Ya couldn't make it up!


mike said...

Well, private servers seem to have plagued many governmental agencies and individuals over the past decade. Hillary isn't alone in her private server scandal. Several high officials in the current administration did the same, plus the Bush administration had their hocus-pocus, disappearing act, too:
"In 2007, when Congress asked the Bush administration for emails surrounding the firing of eights U.S. attorneys, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales revealed that many of the emails requested could not be produced because they were sent on a non-government email server. The officials had used the private domain gwb43.com, a server run by the Republican National Committee. Two years later, it was revealed that potentially 22 million emails were deleted, which was considered by some to be a violation of the Presidential Records Act."

It would be difficult to compare the apples of Hillary's emails to the oranges of Donald's missing business documents and emails, but Trump has been using antiquated, insecure servers for years:
And he's obfuscated missing documents for years to out-ploy government investigations and lawsuits against him:

Should Trump move into the White House, I'm sure he'll devise his own method(s) of leaving no digital tracks on the servers, too.

As for your post, I'll be very surprised if the Abedin-Weiner portion of Hillary's email woes actually produce worthwhile evidence of wrong-doing. The vast majority of Abedin's emails are likely to be duplicates already reviewed in the initial FBI investigation earlier this year. This is a political fanning-the-flames, "bigger than Watergate" ploy by Comey and his Republican allies. The tactic has been successful, as I see Trump's polling is up to par with Clinton now.

I have much greater contempt and disdain for Trump than I do for Clinton. The heat should be applied to Trump's skull to produce his tax returns and any information the FBI has on Trump's ties to Russia and China be revealed prior to the election. Today's headline also has Trump's tax deductions from debt-forgiveness by lenders was actually, at minimum, a capital gain, therefore was taxable, or he was claiming lenders' losses as his own:
"'He deducted somebody else's losses,' said John L. Buckley, who served as the chief of staff for Congress's Joint Committee on Taxation in 1993 and 1994. Since the bondholders were likely declaring losses for tax purposes, Trump shouldn't be able to as well. 'He is double dipping big time,' Buckley told the Times."

Foulness is afoot with either candidate and one will be our next POTUS. With a week to go, I'm sure there will be more antics to keep us in suspense.

Twilight said...

mike ~ Because other a/holes have done it (or something similar) does not make it right and is no excuse. Nor does the fact that Trump has his own pile of wrongs and omissions.

The fact that sensitive, possibly highly classified e-mails are floating around, not only on Hillary Clinton's private server and devices, but on some other device in the hands of an idiot like Anthony Weiner? Ye gods!! If they are duplicates - does that make it any better? Of course it doesn't.

These people are not fit to run a tiny convenience store never mind one of the most powerful countries in the world.

I understand that you feel it incumbent upon yourself to (try to) defend Clinton. I do not, not at all. I will not defend either of these pathetic candidates for one of the world's highest offices.

The whole thing is beyond bizarre.

mike (again) said...

I lived through the Bush administration and only Trump-Pence could potentially out-perform the Bush Republican reign for inane destruction. Please don't find me supporting Clinton, but as I've stated elsewhere here, her email fiasco is pale in comparison to other errors of hers and the current administration. And the Obama administration is pale compared to our should-be war criminals of the previous Bush era. I ended my last comment with "foulness is afoot with either candidate", but I'll definitely take Hillary's brand of foul over deplorable Trump.

I have any number of reasons to support Hillary over Trump, as Trump-Pence have stated they will over-turn the gay marriage act, instigate laws protecting (homophobic) religious freedom, push to over-turn Roe vs Wade, censor the media, etc. I do have something to lose, Twilight, as do we all should Trump-Pence provide our entertainment for the next four years.

You and I may not like either candidate, but one of them will be our next POTUS.

Twilight said...

mike (again) ~ I realise you have more "skin in the game" than I do, mike - understood.

Maybe the best for all of us would be if Clinton were to be cajoled or forced into standing down and letting Tim Kaine take over. I didn't like him from his showing in the VP debate, but he doesn't appear to have the kind of baggage Clinton and her gang/cabal/cult carry with them. It'd feel better to be voting Democrat then.

She will not stand down though, she needs to be put on the throne first, so's nobody can interfere, and the VP will be the only way forward, should impeachment or other difficulties ensue.

That's just conjecture. Clinton, when enthroned, will be eager to put her well-known hawkish (polite term for war-loving) tendencies into play. That is the #1 reason I will not cast a vote for her, or for Trump whose tendencies, apart from being a loon and a salesman, are not known for certain in that direction.

I've recovered my Independent voting status, after moving to Democrat for the primaries. I'm considering a tactical vote for Gary Johnson (don't agree with him on much though) but a vote for him might might, kind of, take away one from Trump - otherwise I'm leaving the president box empty = Nunovthe Abuv.