Wednesday, March 19, 2014

A bit of garbled elemental guff.....

I don't feel like delving into detailed astrology with regard to lost Malaysian airlines MH370. Other, more experienced, heads are onto it anyway, and my heart wouldn't be in it, not at the depth needed to reach any kind of sane conclusion.

Something loosely astrological keeps nagging at the back of my mind though. Every astrological element is involved in this current mystery.

Air, obviously - the plane flew through it. Water - the plane flew over it and might possibly have crashed into it. Fire - some experienced pilots have put forward the considered opinion that an electrical fire in the front instrument panel or below it might have been the beginnings of an ensuing tragedy. Earth - the plane, if not in the sea has to be somewhere on or in the earth, intact, hidden for whatever purpose, or destroyed in a crash.

I've occasionally pondered which of the astrological elements is the strongest (as in "rock-paper-scissors"). This will not help with the current mystery, but just for the hell of it.... Air feeds fire, fire dies without air. Fire can be extinguished by water and indeed by earth if enough of it is thrown onto a fire. So though fire is dramatic, strong and destructive it isn't the strongest of the elements. Air can affect earth : tornado, dust devils etc. but it re-arranges rather than destroys; what it destroys are constructions not earth itself. Air and water mix somewhat uncomfortably, neither needs the other to persist. Earth can and does exist under the oceans, water can and does exist in clouds in the air. Nothing destroys earth or water entirely. Air, as we know it, could be subject to change, which is its weakness, I guess.

Earth and water reign supreme then? Did I need to know this? Not really. Never mind.

Back to where is MH370?


mike said...

Hinduism and Buddhism (and others) include a fifth element: aether...that which is beyond the material. Some beliefs held that the elements were transitional and constantly in flux with each other. Currently, flight MH370 is in the aether!

"The five elements are associated with the five senses, and act as the gross medium for the experience of sensations. The basest element, earth, created using all the other elements, can be perceived by all five senses – hearing, touch, sight, taste, and smell. The next higher element, water, has no odor but can be heard, felt, seen and tasted. Next comes fire, which can be heard, felt and seen. Air can be heard and felt. "Akasha" (aether) is the medium of sound but is inaccessible to all other senses."

Twilight said...

mike ~ Until its presence is detected in one of the more familiar elements, that's where it has to be then, mike, yes - in the aether!

I got the sum, or part of it, correct in my ramblings - earth and water are "basest" and "next higher", as defined in your quote.

When translated to personality traits Earth, Water, Fire and Air tend to rise/fall in the "hierarchy" somewhat differently....or do they? Cardinality: Capricorn and Cancer - stronger than Cardinal Fire (Aries) and Air (Libra)?
Daft question, but easier than "where is MH370!

LB said...

"Earth and water reign supreme then? Did I need to know this? Not really. Never mind."

LOL! This is kind of funny, because lately I've been pondering a particular hexagram of the IChing (29) and what water (as a symbol) can teach us. I won't go into the meaning of 29 -which has to do with the appropriate way to deal with dangerous situations- but I did find this quote which seems to sum it up nicely:

“Water is fluid, soft, and yielding. But water will wear away rock, which is rigid and cannot yield. As a rule, whatever is fluid, soft, and yielding will overcome whatever is rigid and hard. This is another paradox: what is soft is strong.”

― Lao Tzu

All things being equal, water is unique in its ability to yield while maintaining its essential nature. Regardless of our astrology, we can all learn to be more like water, though it's probably a lot harder for some of us than it is for others.:0

DC said...

FUNNY! I knew you couldn't resist a stab at it! I respect your concern tho. IMO I think the pilots, or at least one pilot, had bad intentions. The reasoning for this is that the last words "All right, Good night" were a breach of protocol. The responding pilot (or co-pilot) SHOULD have repeated the instructions verbatim back to the controllers before "signing off"....but woefully that didn't occur. Red flag.

Twilight said...

LB ~ Hmmm - yes, water can wear away rock - also with constant dripping it can form and change things via calcification. When it wears away a rock, does it not simply change it to sand (earth) eventually though...not sure. It's a circular thing in the end, I suppose.

You have reminded me of a quote I'm fond of from Bruce Lee:

“Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves.

Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”


Twilight said...

DC ~ I've thought about that angle too. It could have been neither Captain nor Flight Officer who replied though, if there had been intervention by party or parties so far unknown. It's alright authorities saying all passengers have been investigated, but every time some tragedy occurs it usually turns out that someone nobody ever thought had it in them to "do such a thing" was the perpetrator. Equally that applies to Captain and co-pilot of course.

It does depend on local custom and practice with regard to signing off messages. Malaysian Airlines could be used to different, less formal style I guess. Pilots on the forum I'm reading disagree with each other on this point, but most don't seem unduly disturbed by it, or see it as a definite indication something was wrong. Another of those many imponderables! :-/

LB said...

Twilight ~ The Bruce Lee quote you chose reminds me of the wisdom contained in Hexagram 29 of the IChing - yes, that's it exactly.:)

Earlier this evening (and before I read your response), my husband and I were talking about water as a metaphor, and he used some of the martial arts as examples - where ideally, you offer your opponent nothing to resist.

Twilight said...

LB ~ Yes, I think it's the aggressor's own energy that becomes his undoing. (Not that I know much about martial arts, but I saw Karate Kid!) ;-)

Twilight said...

All ~ More news on MH370 - maybe something sighted.

Debris sighted some hours off western Australia - not identified at time of typing this - maybe, maybe not.