A commenter beneath the linked article, "XXYY", wrote
Like it or not, Trump is doing the Dem[ocrat]s and the left in general a lot of good right where he is. His clownishness and obvious incompetence and corruption ensure he won’t do as much damage as a more serious president might, yet his horrific optics has managed to galvanize a large chunk of the US population into the realization that they need to organize and take back political power from a vicious and entrenched establishment. (As a side benefit, he has also exposed the existing Democratic Party leadership and institutions as pointless, ineffectual and overdue for wholesale replacement.)
You can’t always get what you want, but sometimes you get what you need!
Another, among many good comments, came from "Roquentin:
It would be much better long term if Trump was removed via losing an election. To impeach him or remove him while still in office will deal a very deep blow to the legitimacy of elected leadership in the US as an institution, only the lib[eral]s are too blind with rage to see it. They’re still too stung by seeing Queen Hillary beaten by a vulgar reality TV star. I just can’t listen to people with a straight face who argue that we’re sliding into some kind of autocratic system, but then constantly scheme about how to remove Trump, who was elected according law of the land. I guess they’re blind to how hypocritical that looks too. From where I’m sitting, all this still reads as establishment liberals not being able to admit they lost at this late hour in 2018.
I also suspect it’s because that same crowd no longer believes it can win elections and doesn’t trust the US population. The liberal technocrats talk a mean game about freedom and democracy, but in practice they believe in them even less than most conservatives and think people too stupid and backwards to vote correctly. That if the experts just came in and told them all what to do, we’d all be a lot better off. That’s how these people think, in the Acela Corridor and Silicon Valley. They hate the very people they want to vote for them, and that’s why those very same people won’t do it. They know, we all know.
So...another look at the natal charts of the Prez and Vice-Prez, to see whether any upcoming transits might indicate something out of the ordinary for either of 'em in the near future.
Mike Pence was born on 7 June 1959 in Columbus, Indiana. Time of birth unknown. Chart set for 12 noon.
The first thing I noticed, looking at the chart of VP Pence was his natal Saturn at 5 Capricorn. Transiting Saturn will join Pence's natal Saturn, producing, in astrologer-speak, a Saturn Return - the second Saturn Return in fact. Saturn Returns occur (for all of us every 29 and a half years or so) at ages between 27–31, 56–60, and 84–90 - should we make it that far. These "Returns" happen when Saturn reaches, once again, the point where it was at your time of birth.
The first Saturn Return often brings with it some major change in lifestyle, either in one's home-life or working-life. For me it was both! The second Saturn Return, around age 56 to 60 can sometimes bring retirement or change of employment -some very noticeable change of home life or way of life.
The third Saturn Return heralds the last steps of our life's journey, we are not all lucky enough to reach this Return, however.
Back to the point in hand! Mike Pence has been in the midst of a second Saturn Return this year. Saturn arrived at 5 Capricorn, conjunct his natal Saturn initially in February this year, then retrograded, but was back at 5 Capricorn in June/July; then retrograde again and will be at 5 degrees of Capricorn once more in November, after which it'll go merrily on its way (well - maybe not so merrily, this is Saturn in Capricorn!)
So far nothing major has happened for the VP, at least nothing of which we the onlookers are aware. There has been no hint of any major job change for the VP - such as being elevated to the Presidency. Will November tell a different story?
Donald Trump was born in Jamaica, Queens, New York on 14 June 1946 at 10.54 AM. Below is his natal chart.
In Donald Trump's chart there'll be a potential snag coming up in a couple of years, when transiting Saturn reaches the exact point opposite to where it lay at his birth - 23 Cancer, that'll be in January 2020 (election year!) Transiting Pluto will also be in a similar position then, as well as a little earlier, in May 2019. A best guess as to what that means? Donald Trump, if he is still President, will either choose not to run again, or will be defeated.
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