I read recently, (here), that George Clooney has been appointed a United Nations Messenger of Peace.
There's an article on George and his astrology at Astrodatabank , with natal chart, followed by a string of comments. Interestingly, some of the comments relate to his chart from the sidereal perspective, as well as tropical. Copies of both charts are available. The sidereal version is in square format, but easy to follow. For a passing reader who has any interest in comparing the tropical and sidereal zodiacs in connection with the interpretation of natal charts, the comments are a useful read.
Tropical zodiac dictates that George Clooney has Sun and Mercury in Taurus, Pisces rising. Moon and Saturn in Capricorn, Jupiter in Aquarius. Venus in Aries, Mars at 0* Leo. Generationally Uranus Leo, Pluto Virgo, Neptune Scorpio.
Not even the most expert astrologer in the world, really knows for certain how the signs, planets and houses "work" or what their precise effect is. If one asserts adamantly that one or other zodiac is correct, evidence to support that theory is usually quite easily found. Clearing the mind completely of prejudice or preference isn't easy. I have to keep in mind that both zodiacs cannot be correct, I can't pick and choose a different one for each individual just because it fits them better. In the end, it's going to be a matter of which zodiac is more correct, in a majority of cases.
I naturally lean immediately towards tropical because that's what I've taught myself and read about over many years, and yet here, I find that I marginally prefer the sidereal positions for George Clooney. Sidereal gives him Aquarius rising, Sun in Aries. Aries seems to me to be a doer. George definitely walks the talk. His stunning good looks and acting ability, (not to mention that mischievous twinkle in his eye) mean that he could rest on his laurels - but he doesn't, he's driven to do more.
Taurus is a fixed and stubborn sign, pleasant, but not a big doer or initiator, Taurus Sun and Mercury seem like a bad fit for George. Tropical Pisces rising could describe his compassion for the underprivileged, but Aquarius, the humanitarian sign rising, describes him more clearly, and again Aquarius is another "doing" kind of sign, rather than the dreaming one - Pisces.
My usual difficulty arises when comparing the two charts. There are factors which can be seen as alternatives - Mars in tropical Leo indicates a fiery fighter, that factor transfers to his Sun and Mercury in sidereal Aries. Venus in tropical Aries becomes Venus in sidereal Pisces, so the softness and compassion seen in his tropical Pisces ascendant remains in the picture...these swap-overs really do muddy the water.
Overall, it's "swings and roundabouts" - a shortened version of an old fairground proverb "What you lose on the swings you gain on the roundabouts". Things balance out - if fairground operatives had a poor day financially on the swings, it was likely they'd have done well on the roundabouts.
Disentangling the threads to make a definite call on which zodiac gives more accurate results most of the time isn't a job for an amateur, but I'm going to keep trying, the prospect intrigues me.
There's an article on George and his astrology at Astrodatabank , with natal chart, followed by a string of comments. Interestingly, some of the comments relate to his chart from the sidereal perspective, as well as tropical. Copies of both charts are available. The sidereal version is in square format, but easy to follow. For a passing reader who has any interest in comparing the tropical and sidereal zodiacs in connection with the interpretation of natal charts, the comments are a useful read.
Tropical zodiac dictates that George Clooney has Sun and Mercury in Taurus, Pisces rising. Moon and Saturn in Capricorn, Jupiter in Aquarius. Venus in Aries, Mars at 0* Leo. Generationally Uranus Leo, Pluto Virgo, Neptune Scorpio.
Not even the most expert astrologer in the world, really knows for certain how the signs, planets and houses "work" or what their precise effect is. If one asserts adamantly that one or other zodiac is correct, evidence to support that theory is usually quite easily found. Clearing the mind completely of prejudice or preference isn't easy. I have to keep in mind that both zodiacs cannot be correct, I can't pick and choose a different one for each individual just because it fits them better. In the end, it's going to be a matter of which zodiac is more correct, in a majority of cases.
I naturally lean immediately towards tropical because that's what I've taught myself and read about over many years, and yet here, I find that I marginally prefer the sidereal positions for George Clooney. Sidereal gives him Aquarius rising, Sun in Aries. Aries seems to me to be a doer. George definitely walks the talk. His stunning good looks and acting ability, (not to mention that mischievous twinkle in his eye) mean that he could rest on his laurels - but he doesn't, he's driven to do more.
Taurus is a fixed and stubborn sign, pleasant, but not a big doer or initiator, Taurus Sun and Mercury seem like a bad fit for George. Tropical Pisces rising could describe his compassion for the underprivileged, but Aquarius, the humanitarian sign rising, describes him more clearly, and again Aquarius is another "doing" kind of sign, rather than the dreaming one - Pisces.
My usual difficulty arises when comparing the two charts. There are factors which can be seen as alternatives - Mars in tropical Leo indicates a fiery fighter, that factor transfers to his Sun and Mercury in sidereal Aries. Venus in tropical Aries becomes Venus in sidereal Pisces, so the softness and compassion seen in his tropical Pisces ascendant remains in the picture...these swap-overs really do muddy the water.
Overall, it's "swings and roundabouts" - a shortened version of an old fairground proverb "What you lose on the swings you gain on the roundabouts". Things balance out - if fairground operatives had a poor day financially on the swings, it was likely they'd have done well on the roundabouts.
Disentangling the threads to make a definite call on which zodiac gives more accurate results most of the time isn't a job for an amateur, but I'm going to keep trying, the prospect intrigues me.
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