"As the images unwind, like the circles that you find......"

Looking back to my posts during the 2008 election campaign, I'm reminded that I was once a Hillary supporter - after Dennis Kucinich and John Edwards had disappeared from view that is. My post headed Hopes fade...but... is a good example. Hey...maybe that Bible code thingie is going to come true after all - apart from the date. Oh joy (not)!

Below are a few cartoons of 2008 vintage, some bear an uncanny resemblance to 2016's dramas, one member of the cast being different, of course. Clicking on images might bring up clearer versions.

As 2016 rolled around - this one turned out to be spot on:

I noticed this comment yesterday, under a thread at Common Dreams, and thought it a good fit to add here:

R.Merriman:
The day that Obama received his first nomination as the official candidate of the Democratic Party for the national election I told a co-worker, "Well, the fix is in. Obama will become the next President. Let's hope he fulfills some of those campaign promises he made. When Obama leaves the White House at the end of his eight year residence there, Hillary Clinton will be moving in. She's stepped aside for now, but only after she was promised she would be the candidate and nominee in 2016."

She's followed a career path designed to persuade the Public she has "experience" that counts when it comes to serving as President of the United States. Experience is important in many fields of endeavor. When it comes to the office of President however, character is a much more important qualification to bring to the table. Of the two Democratic candidates running today, which has character? When it comes to experience, Sanders has as much as Clinton, though his experience tends to have been gained by listening to Citizens and Residents, and by advocating for the needs of the People. Clinton ... let's just say that her expertise lays in the field of basking in the lime light, and leave it at that.

Clinton resigned as Secretary of State to enter into an intensive period of preparation to handle questions about policy issues, and to make the rounds of executives and boards of directors and so-called super delegates to assure them she would not upset the apple cart once "elected."

Get ready for the velvet glove, America. It's nearly made its way around your neck.

Updating 2008 - rhyming but not repeating

As we wait, on tenterhooks, for results of the New York primary later today, I've decided to play around with an old post of mine from early 2008 during that election season, adjusting the detail - just for fun. The post was titled:
Spirit of Idealism in the USA:

It's fascinating to observe the patterns and passions erupting, from a variety of perspectives, during this long election season in the USA. The conundrum I puzzle over a lot these days: sidereal versus tropical zodiac, nags me regularly as I browse news articles.

There's an interesting phenomenon occurring in the USA now. On first thought it seemed to me to be classic Uranus in Aquarius Aries, tropically, but in the sidereal zodiac, Uranus is now in tropical Pisces. Sidereally Neptune is in Aquarius.

"Change", a keyword of Uranus and Aquarius, is the buzzword of the moment here. American youth has suddenly become avidly interested in politics, passionately supporting their almost messianic hero, presidential candidate Barack Obama, Bernie Sanders, whose message encapsulates Aquarian ideals.

The movement towards Aquarian ideals isn't only for the youth of the USA. Those left unmoved by Obama's oratory and celebrity endorsements Bernie Sanders' proposals are enthusiastically supporting an equally determined Hillary Clinton, who passionately demands very little change from the way the country has been run for the last 7 years. Even the old-fashioned Republican party has taken a wee step towards more Aquarian thinking by supporting being shocked by the unexpected in the form of Donald Trump John McCain, who, though still something of an egomaniac warrior, is considerably ever so slightly more humanitarian (Aquarian) in his views on a scant few fronts than his party would traditionally have been.

Uranus in sidereal Aquarius Pisces initially seems like an odd good fit, but because we currently have Neptune in tropical sidereal Aquarius and Uranus in tropical sidereal Pisces, the two planets are in what astrologers call "mutual reception", each is in the home sign of the other. Astrologer Robert Wilkinson says (here) that mutual reception "is a very strong influence. It is as though the two planets feed each other, and grow stronger, for good or ill, in their ability to dominate those affairs in the chart." Using the sidereal tropical zodiac, Neptune currently lies in Capricorn Pisces, mutual reception with Uranus in Aries is absent.

It's not a clear-cut choice to decide which fits the situation better, sidereal or tropical zodiac. It could be argued that Uranus in sidereal Aquarius tropical Aries is a good match for events in the USA, it could also be proposed that Neptune's influence is involved from its home sign, Pisces. In a paragraph above I used the word "messianic" quite automatically, and only later, when searching for information in my astrology books, noticed that Grant Lewi, when describing Neptune in Aquarius in his book "Astrology for the Millions" said
"There is a tendency to messianic feelings of social and economic reconstruction, perhaps an inclination towards dubious methods of accomplishing worthwhile goals (an "end justifies the means attitude")".

Rosa Brooks' article "A National Mood Swing", in the Los Angeles Times discusses the current phenomenon (see here)
In conclusion, she writes: [my deletions and additions for 2016]

"It’s far too soon to say if the newfound spirit of idealism that’s sending voters (including many independents) to the Democratic primaries in record numbers will endure, paving the way for an era of energized new social movements and reforms. But I’d bet that we really have turned a page. On the Republican side too, there’s a palpable desire for a candidate who doesn’t fit into a rigid ideological box, one who can tap into and reflect our best instincts instead of our most craven fears.

Whether the idealistic yearning for change endures probably has little to do with who wins and who loses the Democratic nomination (or even the White House). Losses can galvanize social movements just as much as victories, and whoever wins the White House will be president of an America different from the one that greeted Bush’s inaugurations in 2001 and 2005 [ added: or Obama's in 2009 and 2013] It will be a more hopeful, less partisan nation, one united in its rueful awareness of the ways former Bush presidencies went wrong, a nation [hopefully] more ready to pull its socks up and get to work to put things right."

Conclusion: Tropical zodiac may describe this particular situation more exactly than sidereal, depending on one's viewpoint, but sidereal would still describe it well enough.

Astrology aside, the hope in the hearts of everyone is surely that the phenomenon occurring here [among young voters] survives the election, then grows and blossoms, so the world and the planet itself will benefit.