Wednesday, January 08, 2014

Capricorn Casserole

Some re-hashed astrology-talk regarding zodiac sign Capricorn, the sign through which the Sun is currently traversing ~~~

On the whole zodiac sign Capricorn gets a bad rap, probably only second to Scorpio for negative reporting. Standard keywords for Capricorn, the sign ruled by planet Saturn, include: serious, disciplined, careful, cautious, thrifty, cold, organised, solid, old-fashioned, conservative, business-like. There's an adjective coined from their ruler's name -"saturnine". Sounds dry and boring doesn't it?

A handful of well-known Sun Capricorn people refute that Sun sign stereotype though, at least from what we're allowed to know of them: think David Bowie, Jim Carrey, Rod Stewart, Janis Joplin, Betty White, LL CoolJ..........

From personal, real-life, experience I draw a blank regarding Sun Capricorn people, but I have formed the idea at the back of my mind that many of 'em have a wickedly dry sense of humour - I'm not sure from whence that idea would spring, possibly from planets lying in signs adjacent to Capricorn. Sun in Capricorn individuals are liable to have two or more personal planets in neighbouring signs Sagittarius and Aquarius; both signs' characteristics would be likely to dilute Capricorn traits considerably, bring in a hint of happy-go-lucky Sagittarius flavour, or a touch of whacky Aquarianisms. Conversely, it's quite easy to pick up Capricorn flavour in natives of those two neighbouring signs, where close personal planets are often found doing a turn in Capricorn.

Typical textbook Capricorn traits would be more likely apparent in a person with Saturn rising in Capricorn - ruler rising in its own sign. That's when Capricorn traits could be more easily discerned, even if that person's natal Sun and Moon were nowhere near the sign of the seagoat. It's unwise to place too much confidence in Sun signs, they're an easy label, a convenient rule of thumb, a fun grouping, but also liable to be very misleading if taken in isolation.

(Sir) Anthony Hopkins has Sun and ascendant in Capricorn - perhaps slightly more stereotypical than those people mentioned above. He comes over as fairly serious and disciplined, a little old fashioned. But even here, his Moon in Sagittarius and Jupiter in Aquarius tend to "mix it up and make it nice", added to which, Capricorn's ruler Saturn lay in Pisces as he was born, lightening its heavy influence quite a lot.

Graham Chapman (of Monty Python- shirtless in the photo), with Sun and ascendant in Capricorn, Moon in Taurus, Saturn in Taurus sounds like someone Earthy and sensible - heading closer to the stereotype - but Venus and Mars lay in Sagittarius, which kind of knocks it all smartly on the head.

(Sir)Sean Connery, the original James Bond,is the nearest I can find to matching a typical Capricorn stereotype, yet his Sun and Moon are in Virgo, an Earth sign which doesn't tend to smother Capricorn completely. He has Capricorn rising with Saturn in first house very close to the ascending degree. Saturn is his dominant planet and Capricorn shares sign dominance with Virgo. The ususal culprits for messing up Capricorn's serious reputation, Sagittarius and Aquarius, don't get a look in in Connery's chart, by the way.

As it happens, Hopkins and Connery both have been knighted by Queen Elizabeth II - that in itself is rather Capricornian! However, Hopkins is unimpressed and says he only accepted the knighthood to make his (then) wife happy. Connery describes it as one of the proudest days of his life. He had been denied the honour for several years due to his passionate Scottish nationalism, and support for Scottish Independence.

 I'm with Anthony Hopkins on this!


mike said...

I've known several Sun-in-Capricorns over the years that have exhibited some of the typical traits you mention. I would add that they have a keen awareness of social etiquette, too. I've not met an obviously ornery one yet, but I tend to appreciate their perspectives.

We all have Capricorn somewhere in our chart, so look to the house that harbors Capricorn for those similarities and relate them to that house's influence.

Also called the Goat-fish, the tail to navigate the deep ocean...bringing the depth of the emotions to the surface of the material plane in strict control. Capricorn's control their emotions to the extent that they appear cold and unemotional. They're softies...they just don't want you to know it!

Re: your said you might take an Aleve. Hope so! I was going to suggest that, but figured you'd tried it. I LUV's so much better than the others.

BTW - did you happen to see PBS' American Experience last night? "The Poisoner's Handbook" from the eponymous book. Two guys that took-on politics, prohibition, corruption, crime, and science. I found it extremely interesting and entertaining. You can view it free at the following link:

"In the early 20th century, the average American medicine cabinet was a would-be poisoner's treasure chest, with radioactive radium, thallium, and morphine in everyday products. The pace of industrial innovation increased, but the scientific knowledge to detect and prevent crimes committed with these materials lagged behind until 1918. New York City's first scientifically trained medical examiner, Charles Norris, and his chief toxicologist, Alexander Gettler, turned forensic chemistry into a formidable science and set the standards for the rest of the country."

Twilight said...

mike ~ Yes, we all have a bit of Capricorn somewhere. I think Sun Aquarians have more than most too, due to their traditional ruler being Saturn. I have Mercury in Capricorn, house-wise in either 7th or 6th (I suspect the rectified birth time an astrologer calculated for me could be around 30 mins adrift, but no way of being certain, and he admitted he wasn't sure anyway.)

I like Capricorn. I like all the "winter signs".

Aleve is my go-to remedy, but I'm wary of taking too much of it.
This headache hadn't responded to it though - but it's less intense today, so I'm trying Aleve again. Back in the UK Solpadeine was my go-to remedy (it contained a very small amount of codeine which now a restricted drug). Can't get anything similar here without prescription, which Doc has offered in the past but at the time I declined for some forgotten reason. I shall ask for a prescription next time I have to make a Doc visit.

No we didn't see "The Poisoner's Handbook" last night - we watched some "Antiques Roadshow" on PBS then went on to watch rented DVDs. Thanks for the link - I shall take a look later.

mike (again) said...

And speaking of goat heads, you in Oklahoma have all the good stuff...LOL. There is a picture provided.

"Satanists Unveil Design For Oklahoma Capitol Monument"

Twilight said...

mike ~ LOL! I've just been drafting a post for tomorrow on that!

Twilight said...

mike ~ On 2nd thoughts - I'll put it up now, so as not to be a day late and dollar short as usual. ;-)

♥ Sonny ♥ said...

yes indeed, we Cappie's get a bad rap:)

sweet thang like me being thought of as cold and manipulative~! oh the horror of it all..... giggle

mike (again) said...

Oh-oh...I outed your post! LOL This came about, because I was trying to determine how the sea-goat of Capricorn evolved. This from Wiki:


The constellation Capricornus is traditionally depicted as a sea-goat, a goat with a fish's tail (see "Goatlike" Aigaion called Briareos, one of the Hecatonchires). A myth reported as "Egyptian" in Gaius Julius Hyginus' Poetic Astronomy that would seem to be invented to justify a connection of Pan with Capricorn says that when Aegipan — that is Pan in his goat-god aspect was attacked by the monster Typhon, he dove into the Nile; the parts above the water remained a goat, but those under the water transformed into a fish."

Twilight said...

mike (again) ~ Interesting. They had a story for every eventuality didn't they? I suppose that's where we, modern man/woman got our ability to construct conspiracy theories for every occasion - handed down in the DNA. ;-)

Twilight said...

Sonny ~ Exactly!! :-)