Wikipedia has published birthdates and birth places for the remaining 11 American Idol contestants. Wiki isn't always 100% accurate on these details, but this week the young singers were asked to perform a song from the year they were born, and each did tell us their birth date in video clips during the show. Yours truly wasn't ready with pen and paper however, but Wiki's details do match my memory of the data.
This season's crop is an unusually talented collection - the judges keep telling us this, but it's quite evident to Idol junkies like me. I'm not sure that it would be ethical to display natal charts of the young people at this stage. Most will be eliminated during the next few weeks anyway. Until the crowd thins out a bit I'll limit myself to a few general notes.
I've set the full list of birth dates below in zodiacal Sun sign order. No remaining contestants have Sun in Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Leo or Sagittarius. So no Fire Suns this time around - a little surprising.
Full list of birth dates:
Their birth years span 1984 to 1995. Steven Tyler quipped to one of the youngsters when giving his birth date: "I've got spare sandwiches under my bed that are older than that".
Around 1989 to 1996 there was a building conjunction in Capricorn of slow-moving planets Uranus and Neptune. That conjunction, near or exact, is a feature in several of the contestants' charts. A Uranus/Neptune conjunction affects a generation or age group rather than an individual, but when personal planets link in to such conjunctions, the "power" and "flavour" will seep through into the personality.
My favourite go-to for generational thoughts is Horoscope for the New Millennium by E. Alan Meece (see extract HERE.)
In considering the generation with Neptune/Uranus conjunction he writes:
A question sprang to mind as I drafted this post: were some of the above young people among so-called Indigo Children? This from astrologer Donna Cunningham:
No times of birth are available, making it impossible to see exactly where the Neptune/Uranus conjunction and associated planets lie in the charts. If positioned close to one of the angles (ascendant, midheaven and opposite points) that would add more strength to both conjunction and associated links.
Will a personal link to the conjunction be a help or a hindrance in these American Idol competitive circumstances though? My guess: it will be extremely helpful
The four contestants below (love 'em or hate 'em) have been "stand-outs" from the get-go:
Scotty McCreary has the conjunction exact, both planets at 18 Capricorn, with personal planets Mercury and Venus in sextile and trine aspect to it from Scorpio and Virgo respectively. Unusually deep voice for his age - ideal for singing traditional country music, which he does with a poise far beyond his years.
Casey Abrams has Neptune @ 15 and Uranus @ 12 Capricorn with Mercury semi-sextile at 10 Aquarius and Venus sextile from 18 Pisces. He has been hospitalised twice already since the season's shows began, suffering from ulcerative colitis. He's probably the most original of the whole bunch. I hope health issues don't spoil his chances.
James Durbin has an interesting planetary cluster around his 16 degree Capricorn Sun: Neptune 10, Saturn 6, Uranus 2 degrees Capricorn, flanked by Venus @ 25 Sagittarius and Mercury @ 5 Aquarius. James has Tourette's and Asperger's syndrome, by the way. He's the would-be rocker of the bunch, and good enough for Steven Tyler to have told him that he's showing "an inner vein of crazy" - so necessary to be a true rock musician.
Lauren Alaina has Neptune/Uranus at 20 Capricorn with Sun and Jupiter sextile from Scorpio; there's also a possible Moon link to the conjunction, but without time of birth, I cannot be sure. She's talented, very young - though her looks belie this. Precocious too.
This season's crop is an unusually talented collection - the judges keep telling us this, but it's quite evident to Idol junkies like me. I'm not sure that it would be ethical to display natal charts of the young people at this stage. Most will be eliminated during the next few weeks anyway. Until the crowd thins out a bit I'll limit myself to a few general notes.
I've set the full list of birth dates below in zodiacal Sun sign order. No remaining contestants have Sun in Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Leo or Sagittarius. So no Fire Suns this time around - a little surprising.
Full list of birth dates:
Jacob Lusk (born June 23, 1987) is from Compton, California. SUN CANCER
Paul McDonald (born August 24, 1984) in Auburn, Alabama. SUN VIRGO
Haley Reinhart (born September 9, 1990) is from Wheeling, Illinois. SUN VIRGO
Pia Toscano (born October 14, 1988) is from Howard Beach, New York. SUN LIBRA
Scotty McCreery (born October 9, 1993) in from Garner, North Carolina. SUN LIBRA
Naima Adedapo (born October 5, 1984 in Maywood, Illinois) is from Milwaukee, Wisconsin. SUN LIBRA
Lauren Alaina (born November 8, 1994) is from Rossville, Georgia. SUN SCORPIO
James Durbin (born January 6, 1989) is from Santa Cruz, California. SUN CAPRICORN
Casey Abrams (born February 12, 1991 in Austin, Texas). SUN AQUARIUS
Thia Megia (born January 30, 1995) is from Mountain House, California. SUN AQUARIUS
Stefano Langone (born February 27, 1989) is from Kent, Washington. SUN PISCES
Back row left-right: Casey (in hospital when pic was taken), Pia, James, Paul, Jacob, Scotty. Front row left-right: Haley, Karen (eliminated this week), Stefano, Naima, Thia, Lauren.
Their birth years span 1984 to 1995. Steven Tyler quipped to one of the youngsters when giving his birth date: "I've got spare sandwiches under my bed that are older than that".
Around 1989 to 1996 there was a building conjunction in Capricorn of slow-moving planets Uranus and Neptune. That conjunction, near or exact, is a feature in several of the contestants' charts. A Uranus/Neptune conjunction affects a generation or age group rather than an individual, but when personal planets link in to such conjunctions, the "power" and "flavour" will seep through into the personality.
My favourite go-to for generational thoughts is Horoscope for the New Millennium by E. Alan Meece (see extract HERE.)
In considering the generation with Neptune/Uranus conjunction he writes:
"The committed ones," 1988-1995 (Generation Y-b) (Uranus conjunct Neptune in Capricorn, Pluto in Scorpio) This is a group with outstanding potential. It is a very precocious generation, but won't burn itself out in youth. They are steady, persistent, determined, ambitious and passionate. They have great talent in the arts, politics and organization, and they may be the great leaders who lay down lasting foundations for a new age of civilization. On the other hand, some might consider them too cold, calculating, rigid, worldly or obsessed with their own goals."
A question sprang to mind as I drafted this post: were some of the above young people among so-called Indigo Children? This from astrologer Donna Cunningham:
I’ve been an astrologer for over thirty years, and some time ago I began wondering about an astrological pattern unlike any I had ever seen. Parents were suddenly asking me about the charts of some very unusual children - gifted yet struggling to fit into the system - and these charts were unique. Uranus and Neptune had been conjunct - that is, traveling been together in the sky - for a number of years when these children were born, first in Sagittarius, then in Capricorn, and finally in Aquarius. (The years 1984-1999 were especially significant). These strangely gifted youngsters tended to have Uranus and Neptune highlighted in their charts, perhaps connected with their Sun, Moon, or Rising sign or with several factors at once.
Both Uranus and Neptune are planets that grant out-of-the-ordinary gifts and out-of-the-ordinary difficulties in fitting into the mainstream - standing together they would be at the outer limits of anything already known! Applying traditional astrological interpretations to these children charts seemed both inadequate and needlessly alarming for the parent. I went to a metaphysical bookstore, and The Indigo Children, by Lee Carroll and Jan Tober came home with me. Immediately, the book provided some important answers, for the traits given for indigo children were very similar to the traits of people who have Uranus and Neptune as prominent features of the chart. Uranian types are highly intelligent, inventive, extremely independent, visionary, and follow their own guidance rather than submit unquestioningly to authority. Neptunians are sensitive, dreamy, creative, imaginative, often psychic, and with a strong sense of compassion for the vulnerable. Many indigo children display both sets of traits.
No times of birth are available, making it impossible to see exactly where the Neptune/Uranus conjunction and associated planets lie in the charts. If positioned close to one of the angles (ascendant, midheaven and opposite points) that would add more strength to both conjunction and associated links.
Will a personal link to the conjunction be a help or a hindrance in these American Idol competitive circumstances though? My guess: it will be extremely helpful
The four contestants below (love 'em or hate 'em) have been "stand-outs" from the get-go:
Scotty McCreary has the conjunction exact, both planets at 18 Capricorn, with personal planets Mercury and Venus in sextile and trine aspect to it from Scorpio and Virgo respectively. Unusually deep voice for his age - ideal for singing traditional country music, which he does with a poise far beyond his years.
Casey Abrams has Neptune @ 15 and Uranus @ 12 Capricorn with Mercury semi-sextile at 10 Aquarius and Venus sextile from 18 Pisces. He has been hospitalised twice already since the season's shows began, suffering from ulcerative colitis. He's probably the most original of the whole bunch. I hope health issues don't spoil his chances.
James Durbin has an interesting planetary cluster around his 16 degree Capricorn Sun: Neptune 10, Saturn 6, Uranus 2 degrees Capricorn, flanked by Venus @ 25 Sagittarius and Mercury @ 5 Aquarius. James has Tourette's and Asperger's syndrome, by the way. He's the would-be rocker of the bunch, and good enough for Steven Tyler to have told him that he's showing "an inner vein of crazy" - so necessary to be a true rock musician.
Lauren Alaina has Neptune/Uranus at 20 Capricorn with Sun and Jupiter sextile from Scorpio; there's also a possible Moon link to the conjunction, but without time of birth, I cannot be sure. She's talented, very young - though her looks belie this. Precocious too.
6 comments:
Interesting that the 3 initial (primal) sun-signs are not going into the finals. Is something "in the air there"?
On mutual reception I will have to investigate a very helpfull nurse I met last night, an Aquarius sun-sign and mutual reception not of Neptune/Uranus but Venus/Mars and this in Aries/Taurus.
I had plenty of time already to talk to her as she helped my very painful all night peregrination between 2 Brazilian hospitals (public but surprisingly good!).
I am now with a huge plaster over my broken left knee, hoping that that will do with no need of surgery. Fell while cutting a ripe banana-tree on a steep slope.
As predicted repeatedly y our friend Fabienne (Champion of Astrology-Unboxed), the entry of Uranus into Aries (my sign) already brought an unexpected surprise. No sports for quite some time, also not for Cognac, poor fellow...
Gian Paul ~~~ Re 3 initial signs - yes I noticed that. Don't know if it's significant. Maybe it means that we're moving on?
BUT.....so sorry to read of your accident and consequent incapacity.
It must be very painful! Are you able to get around sufficiently to do manage most things?
Dang! Uranus has arrived with a rather nasty "fanfare" in your case, GP. In my Aries Sun husband's case I look on the pacemaker episode of last Fall as his Uranus "fanfare".
Take care!
Thanks, Twilight for your good wishes. Fortunately I have received plenty of help, my Japanese neighbors are adorable, even brought me an Ikebana flower arrangement - with local things, branches, moss, and you may have guessed: a flower from a banana tree, beatifully pink.
For the rest I may be glued to the net a bit more then usual. Best wishes for your husband's experience with the pace-maker!
Gian Paul ~~ Ah! I'm glad to hear there's someone around for you.
That was sweet of them. They must be feeling very sad too.
While you're anchored to the computer, if you get the urge to bash out a guest post, I'll be very happy to receive it by e-mail.
We might be away sometime during next week at some point (not decided yet - will confirm later) but it'd be very handy to have a guest post on returning, ready for early next week - no pressure though, because you must be coping with pain as well as incapacity. Thought I'd mention it in case your muse hits you and you feel like a bit of typing to pass the time.
Hope you feel better soon GP
Hugs :-)
Thanks for the invitation, will think up some astro-idea.
Have the Obamas here in Brazil right now - the local press says it's foremost tourism for his family (even an extended carnaval show was arranged), and that otherwise his visit is not to the country of Brazil but for commerce.
Gian Paul ~~~ Thank you! No stress though - concentrate on healing!
So the Prez is on holiday (again!)
Well - there's nothing important for him to do here is there?
(sarcasm).
;-)
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