tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post8855047655957838515..comments2024-03-17T03:42:21.277-05:00Comments on LEARNING CURVE ON THE ECLIPTIC: SNOWPIERCERTwilighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-27139245307027726042014-12-03T23:49:56.810-06:002014-12-03T23:49:56.810-06:00mike (again) ~ Yes, I read that.
How embarrassing...mike (again) ~ Yes, I read that.<br />How embarrassing it is to live in a state where the people continually vote this guy in to a position in the national Senate!! :-/Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-17960501338211415302014-12-03T21:39:55.024-06:002014-12-03T21:39:55.024-06:00Inhofe, Perry, Ted Cruz...where does it all end?
...Inhofe, Perry, Ted Cruz...where does it all end?<br /><br />"Inhofe's Grand Climate Conspiracy Theory: It's All About Barbra Streisand...That's what the GOP senator who'll be taking control of the environment committee told me several years ago." By David Corn<br /><br />http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/12/james-inhofe-barbra-streisand-climate-change-hoaxmike (again)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-8239049893166899672014-12-03T16:48:07.832-06:002014-12-03T16:48:07.832-06:00mountanto ~ My pleasure - I very much enjoyed your...mountanto ~ My pleasure - I very much enjoyed your review - best of the several I read. :-)Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-64585736326422205272014-12-03T16:14:53.910-06:002014-12-03T16:14:53.910-06:00Thanks for the citation! I loved this movie and am...Thanks for the citation! I loved this movie and am glad to see it getting the attention it deserves!mountantohttp://ifyouwantthegravy.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-18727566494303517542014-12-03T14:09:31.192-06:002014-12-03T14:09:31.192-06:00mike (again) ~ Hmmm re the robot blog gatekeeper t...mike (again) ~ Hmmm re the robot blog gatekeeper thingie - I think Blogger or Google must have been tinkering with things this morning - I find I'm unable to get into my cableone e-mail at the same time as into the admin side of Blogger. Dang! It always takes me ages to figure out how to get them running in tandem again.<br /><br />Anyway - hmmm - your mention of the Cathars had me going back to the post where they came up here not long ago for a refresher:<br /><br />http://twilightstarsong.blogspot.com/2014/10/labyrinthe.html<br /><br />The whole -ism thing, especially in religious context gets ultra- complicated, doesn't it!? A bit like a family tree where several illegitimate births gum up the works ;-) <br /><br />I don't think anyone has ever asked me if I'm a Christian, but if they did I'd say that I believe that the man we have been taught to call Jesus Christ was a teacher whose teachings, because of their quality, obvious good sense and deep empathy, have lasted for 2000 + years, in spite of some so-called followers establishing a church (or churches) for their own ends of greed, power and control. All those churches do the exact opposite of Christ's teachings. Yet theses churches followers are so brainwashed as to not be able to see it.<br /><br />I'd probably be run-out of Oklahoma on a rail if I actually said that within anybody's earshot here. %-(<br /><br />One of the other DVDs I rented was "Philomena" with Judi Dench playing the lead - a true story of a woman in Ireland who, unmarried but pregnant had to be taken in by a Roman Catholic nunnery. The horrors she underwent then and later, you'd think would put RCs off their religion for good. I'm sure many similar stories have done so for many, but certainly not all!<br /><br />The whole Gnostic, Cathar, Essene, Dead Sea Scrolls, Book of Enoch, thing is an ongoing source of fascination to me. There has to be something, just beyond it all, I reckon that could, if only a new clue were found, answer so many questions that, to date, have no answer.<br />Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-89698212395901687972014-12-03T13:18:48.183-06:002014-12-03T13:18:48.183-06:00I may have to be more careful how I describe my be...I may have to be more careful how I describe my belief, when asked if I'm a Christian. No...I'm not. That usually conjures devil worship in the ears of the receiver, so I typically indicate that agnostic comes closest. But maybe I'm more gnostic than agnostic!<br /><br />"Agnostic (from Ancient Greek ἀ- (a-), meaning "without", and γνῶσις (gnōsis), meaning "knowledge") was used by Thomas Henry Huxley in a speech at a meeting of the Metaphysical Society in 1869 to describe his philosophy, which rejects all claims of spiritual or mystical knowledge.<br /><br />Early Christian church leaders used the Greek word gnosis (knowledge) to describe "spiritual knowledge". Agnosticism is not to be confused with religious views opposing the ancient religious movement of Gnosticism in particular; Huxley used the term in a broader, more abstract sense. Huxley identified agnosticism not as a creed but rather as a method of skeptical, evidence-based inquiry."<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism<br /><br />For years, I told people that I was a pantheist, but that has dual meaning. I would be the non-religious:<br />"Pantheism is derived from the Greek πᾶν pan (meaning "all") and Θεός Theos (meaning "God"). There are a variety of definitions of pantheism. Some consider it a theological and philosophical position concerning God.<br /><br />As a religious position, some describe pantheism as the polar opposite of atheism. From this standpoint, pantheism is the view that everything is part of an all-encompassing, immanent God. All forms of reality may then be considered either modes of that Being, or identical with it. Others hold that pantheism is a non-religious philosophical position. To them, pantheism is the view that the Universe and God are identical."<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheismmike (again)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-81066855897532610382014-12-03T13:06:50.294-06:002014-12-03T13:06:50.294-06:00Completely agree about SNL. I watch the local new...Completely agree about SNL. I watch the local news at 10 PM on Saturday night, but typically switch the station to avoid SNL and catch "Modern Family" on abc. Extended football disallowed "Modern Family", so I caught the intro to SNL with Chris Rock.<br /><br />I'm a little confused regarding the differing sects of gnosticism. I would think that the Essenes would be in that membership, but they are not listed...I suppose due to their belief in Moses. Our friends, the Cathars are listed as gnostic. I thought the Cathars were later spin-offs of the Essenes, they must have reformed some beliefs. Interesting that, as always, Christianity, and specifically Catholicism, is the antithesis, literally and figuratively.<br /><br />Wonder of wonders - the "Please prove you're not a robot...type the text" is now a photo. The one shown right now is a house address (real photo)!mike (again)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-16976592695256883722014-12-03T12:22:05.761-06:002014-12-03T12:22:05.761-06:00mike ~ Yes, I suspect you are correct - the movie ...mike ~ Yes, I suspect you are correct - the movie can be seen as a metaphor for human experience, from (just about) day one onward.<br /><br />I had a vague idea what Gnosticism is, but this morning read this<br /><br />http://gnosis.org/gnintro.htm<br /><br />I found it interesting and easy to take in, though the last couple of sections became a bit hazy for me.<br /><br />I think Bong Joon Ho has put a mixture of ingredients into "Snowpiercer", so that different viewers will find different ingredients in it, according to their own taste and experiences. Clever!<br /><br />Thanks for the link to Chris Rock's monologue - hadn't seen that before. It's a good one, all through. We usually miss the SNL monologue but occasionally tune in part way through the show, watch for 20 minutes and switch off in disgust. A show that used to be so iconic has become so absolutely terrible (I know this from DVDs of early episodes which were so great when Gilda Radner, Bill Murray etc etc were the stars). The show has burnt itself out and should have been laid to rest several years ago (IMO).<br /><br />Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-60130206204603680992014-12-03T09:17:20.112-06:002014-12-03T09:17:20.112-06:00The "Snowpiercer" may present a glorifie...The "Snowpiercer" may present a glorified view of climate change...we might be fortunate to have such a train in this tragedy yet to unfold, regardless where we are compartmentalized upon the train. I obviously haven't seen the movie, but your description sounds as if "Snowpiercer" is a metaphor for the human condition throughout our existence.<br /><br />I enjoyed your quote by M.Hughes...Gnosticism has been popping-up in many items lately. Just about everything, from the daily news, politics, movies, books, and particularly religion, has the gnostic edge: duality, falsity, demigod, materialism, etc.<br /><br />And along that Gnostic theme, I thought Chris Rock's SNL monologue was perfection regarding Christmas. Here's a link...it's an 8 minute video, but the Christmas portion starts at 5 minutes, if you want to skip to it:<br />http://www.salon.com/2014/11/02/chris_rock_rips_into_american_materialism_in_hilarious_snl_monologue/mikenoreply@blogger.com