tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post8824519677951240369..comments2024-03-17T03:42:21.277-05:00Comments on LEARNING CURVE ON THE ECLIPTIC: "WE THE ......" ?Twilighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-6850355748533469502014-07-10T08:37:33.334-05:002014-07-10T08:37:33.334-05:00mike ~ Yes, I agree - and humans, whether facets o...mike ~ Yes, I agree - and humans, whether facets of a corporation or acting as individuals, need fairly strict regulation, otherwise civilisation would descend into utter chaos. We are not capable of ever being "free" due to our genetic and astrological makeup. We're creatures with a quite definite dark side. We also have to rely on other human creatures to make the regulations for us - which fact puts us in a kind of "Catch 22" situation.<br />:-/Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-68432876216052284212014-07-10T07:24:16.442-05:002014-07-10T07:24:16.442-05:00Corporations and government are not monsters that ...Corporations and government are not monsters that predated humans, that were waiting for humans to arrive to have dominion over. Corporations and government are perceived abstractly as something more than the individual constituents acting collectively. I am definitely against the corporate personhood designation given by SCOTUS and I object to the over-reach of government. It's critical to understand that humans constitute corporations and government, and it's the errant group-think that we so much dislike.mike (again)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-65787911912241344752014-07-09T14:11:45.599-05:002014-07-09T14:11:45.599-05:00mike ~ Corporations are legal entities created by...mike ~ Corporations are legal entities created by humans to aid and ease the running of their businesses. to that extent they are metaphorically legal "persons". Operating a business through the intermediary of a Limited Liability Corporation has benefits, some of which they shouldn't have - there ought to be far more regulation than is already in place in respect of corporate "rights". To my mind that is where the people of the USA are to blame - they have allowed things to go beyond what is reasonable, in so many ways over the years. <br /><br />Why? <br /><br />Part ignorance, part brain-wash by media, part laziness, part apathy, part passivity, part wanting to be the next millionaire and believing the American Dream propaganda. <br /><br />Now we're screwed. <br /><br />The corporations are allowed to buy our politicians, our government, our courts. Our votes mean nothing anymore.Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-50246093845173726712014-07-09T11:24:09.926-05:002014-07-09T11:24:09.926-05:00It's very difficult to isolate corporations fr...It's very difficult to isolate corporations from their employees, board members, and stock holders...a corporation functions as its individual parts function. Those individual parts are ourselves, family members, friends, neighbors, community members, etc. Upper and mid-level echelon are treated to high salaries, bonuses, and other perquisites necessary to align with the corporate value system in effect. Rewards can create willing fools. Henry Ford paid high salaries to assembly line workers to enable them to purchase the cars they made...clever entrapment.<br /><br />Some very good quotes from Maya del Mar. She speaks of the late 1800s as the period when corporations shape-shifted into their strongholds. Prior to the early 1900s, most Americans were rural farmers and not dependent on manufactured goods to any great extent...post WWI saw the rapid rise of urban living and dependence on corporations for a salaried existence and the concurrent dependence on manufactured goods. The strength of corporations has been proportional to the individuals' dependence on them. It's unfortunate that more people can't become more self-sufficient, as was the mantra of the hippies in the mid-1960s communal living theme.<br /><br />I've been fortunate to work in the high-tech, biopharmaceutical industry and I was a productive employee that was rewarded for my efforts with high pay, bonuses, stock options, and miscellaneous perks. We called such benefits "the golden handcuffs". I saw, and was made part of, many questionable activities and deeds.<br /><br />Corporations ARE people that, for some reason, perform as one collective that substantiates and condones its activities. We are all to blame for these conglomerates of individuals (us) that become one with the great corporations that employee us, or have our retirement funds invested, or have our savings invested in their stocks...or simply love their products, though harmful to humans in some manner.mikenoreply@blogger.com