tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post7856024390543949470..comments2024-03-17T03:42:21.277-05:00Comments on LEARNING CURVE ON THE ECLIPTIC: MOON STUFF Twilighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-59676792700025168412015-07-19T09:19:21.558-05:002015-07-19T09:19:21.558-05:00Anon/kidd ~ Uranus in Aries in the 1930s, until 1...Anon/kidd ~ Uranus in Aries in the 1930s, until 1936, was an ingredient in some of their natal charts then. We're back in that cycle now, so maybe those being born in the current Uranus in Aries cycle will mature into the equivalent of the 1960s astronauts, to do things even more wondrous. :-)<br /><br />Current Pluto stuff is less "hands-on" and exciting, but still amazing to me. Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-58631203249374876072015-07-18T23:21:33.768-05:002015-07-18T23:21:33.768-05:00I watched every space mission that I could, from e...I watched every space mission that I could, from early Gemini onward ...<br /><br />I find it interesting that ... of the 12 moon-walkers ...<br />- All were from the 30's - except big Al (1923) - 6 were from 1930 proper.<br />- 5 Horses! 3 Boars, 2 Monkeys, a Snake and a Dog.<br /><br /><br />"Mercury, that's a good name."<br />"Geminee, well that's ok ... now there are two in the spacecraft."<br />"Apollo ... and they're going where??"<br />"Ohh ... they are not that smart after all!"<br /><br />... (A terrible thing to realize when you're a kid)<br /><br /><br />This Pluto stuff is neat, but it's not the same ... alas. <br /><br /><br />kidd.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-90309613090426816652015-07-18T14:50:50.551-05:002015-07-18T14:50:50.551-05:00mike ~ Sounds frustrating, wish I could help. Hope...mike ~ Sounds frustrating, wish I could help. Hope you're able to figure it out ~ I think you'll enjoy their programming, *especially* some of the documentaries.<br /><br />****<br /><br />Twilight ~ What a poem. Think I'll need to read it a few times to take in its fuller meaning. As far hope and its relationship to the darker sides of our natures, Jung also pointed out there's 'gold in the shadows'. <br /><br />I can always find something to be grateful for, without denying the darker truths about myself, the world or people in it. Therein lies the paradox.:)<br /><br />“Contradiction brings the crushing burden of meaninglessness. One can endure any suffering if it has meaning; but meaninglessness is unbearable. Contradiction is barren and destructive, yet paradox is creative. It is a powerful embracing of reality.<br /><br />"To suffer one’s confusion is the first step in healing. Then the pain of contradiction is transformed into the mystery of paradox."<br /><br />"We hate paradox since it is so painful getting there, but it is a very direct experience of a reality beyond our usual frame of reference and yields some of the greatest insights. It forces us beyond ourselves and destroys naïve and inadequate adaptions."<br /><br />– From the book, "Owning Your Own Shadow" by Robert JohnsonLBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-11713635521275025992015-07-18T13:50:44.532-05:002015-07-18T13:50:44.532-05:00LB & mike ~ When I get to feeling cynical and ...LB & mike ~ When I get to feeling cynical and negative about The People, our failings, which are many, I reach to the shelf below my computer and pull out Carl Sandburg's "The People, Yes", a battered 1936, 2nd printing. I open it at any point and find something to lift spirits.<br /><br />To save too much copy typing I found something from it I I can copy/paste - these are, actually, the last lines in the book:<br /><br /><i>The people is a tragic and comic two-face: hero and hoodlum:<br />phantom and gorilla twisting to moan with a gargoyle mouth:<br />"They buy me and sell me...it's a game...sometime I'll<br />break loose..."<br /><br /> Once having marched<br />Over the margins of animal necessity,<br />Over the grim line of sheer subsistence<br /> Then man came<br />To the deeper rituals of his bones,<br />To the lights lighter than any bones,<br />To the time for thinking things over,<br />To the dance, the song, the story,<br />Or the hours given over to dreaming,<br /> Once having so marched.<br /><br />Between the finite limitations of the five senses<br />and the endless yearnings of man for the beyond<br />the people hold to the humdrum bidding of work and food<br />while reaching out when it comes their way<br />for lights beyond the prison of the five senses,<br />for keepsakes lasting beyond any hunger or death.<br /> This reaching is alive.<br />The panderers and liars have violated and smutted it.<br /> Yet this reaching is alive yet<br /> for lights and keepsakes.<br /><br /> The people know the salt of the sea<br /> and the strength of the winds<br /> lashing the corners of the earth.<br /> The people take the earth<br /> as a tomb of rest and a cradle of hope.<br /> Who else speaks for the Family of Man?<br /> They are in tune and step<br /> with constellations of universal law.<br /> The people is a polychrome,<br /> a spectrum and a prism<br /> held in a moving monolith,<br /> a console organ of changing themes,<br /> a clavilux of color poems<br /> wherein the sea offers fog<br /> and the fog moves off in rain<br /> and the labrador sunset shortens<br /> to a nocturne of clear stars<br /> serene over the shot spray<br /> of northern lights.<br /><br /> The steel mill sky is alive.<br /> The fire breaks white and zigzag<br /> shot on a gun-metal gloaming.<br /> Man is a long time coming.<br /> Man will yet win.<br /> Brother may yet line up with brother:<br /><br />This old anvil laughs at many broken hammers.<br /> There are men who can't be bought.<br /> The fireborn are at home in fire.<br /> The stars make no noise,<br /> You can't hinder the wind from blowing.<br /> Time is a great teacher.<br /> Who can live without hope?<br /><br />In the darkness with a great bundle of grief<br /> the people march.<br />In the night, and overhead a shovel of stars for keeps, the people<br />march:<br /> "Where to? what next?"</i>Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-19373597693467871222015-07-18T13:46:10.544-05:002015-07-18T13:46:10.544-05:00BTW - I just read your comment, LB, and you mentio...BTW - I just read your comment, LB, and you mentioned LinkTV. I subscribed via Roku and it is shown as a channel on my selections. When I select LinkTV, it opens, and each selection is labeled, but when I click on a selection, I'm taken out of LinkTV. I'll have to email LinkTV to see if they have a solution.mike (again)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-77184885958110462222015-07-18T13:40:58.325-05:002015-07-18T13:40:58.325-05:00I usually wear my curmudgeon hat with pessimistic ...I usually wear my curmudgeon hat with pessimistic ear flaps...LOL.<br /><br />Earth has an unfathomable number of living creatures. ONE human body is thought to have 100,000,000,000,000 (10^14 or one hundred trillion) bacteria on and in it! In comparison, the human, global population is thought to be between 7 and 8 billion (10^9) in 2015. It's thought that there are 8.7 million SPECIES on Earth.<br /><br />If you ask me, I'd say that it's the DNA itself that is important, not particularly the packaging. We humans relish in the belief that we are special and the chosen ones to have dominion over the Earth, but disappointment often accompanies self-appointed aggrandizement.mike (again)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-1705702084083363792015-07-18T13:17:02.455-05:002015-07-18T13:17:02.455-05:00My husband and I loved the movie, "Moon"...My husband and I loved the movie, "Moon", Twilight. Think I must've commented on it before.<br /><br />I agree with Sonny and mike about humans and our personal and collective shadows. It's so easy to get swept up in the collective wave (of whatever) without acknowledging the role we play as individuals. <br /><br />It's relatively easy to find demons or heroes (which are rarely either) out there, not so easy to *consciously* identify and deal with some of those same propensities/qualities within ourselves. Denial makes it hard to see things clearly. <br /><br />Doesn't mean we shouldn't speak out against wrongdoing or injustice. It does mean we need to check ourselves first, to make certain we're not part of the problem ~ or the solution! <br /><br />Right now I'm reading a few different books on shadow; it's such a deep and complex subject. I think a lot of people misinterpret or misuse Jung's original ideas, thinking that to 'own our shadow' means to proudly act out our lower natures. Interesting too, how each author offers a different perspective on Jung's original ideas. Some I appreciate more than others.<br /><br />I watched a great documentary recently (on Link TV) about our relationship to the environment. Wish I could find the quote, it was something along the lines of how rather than treating earth as our home, most of us act as if we're visitors from another planet here to use up resources then leave. <br /><br />Much as I love my modern conveniences, I sometimes try to imagine life without them and what that would mean. These past few years, we've tried to implement small changes, though I admit I'm part of the problem too. I walk most places, but we still own a car. That's a big one that's tough to get around considering the way our communities are laid out, but I'm willing. I feel for young people and the challenges they'll face here on earth.LBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-5090827435398535102015-07-18T12:02:03.606-05:002015-07-18T12:02:03.606-05:00mike ~ Hmmm are we all in cynical mood this morn...mike ~ Hmmm are we all in cynical mood this mornin' then! ;-)<br /><br />I've signed the petition, mike - thanks for the links.<br /><br />Progress and history will go where the strongest wish to take it, I guess. We lesser mortals are but onlookers. <br /><br />My own thoughts about man/humanity moving out from Earth is that, if there's anything at all in astrology, after a generation, maybe two, certain changes would take place in man's nature/DNA due to his then different position in the universe. Maybe subtle changes, depending on distance and exact location, but could be enough for improvement (or making things worse?) The adventure of man <b>will</b> continue, one way or another - at least for a while - though it'll be a mere blip in universe's entire time span I guess.Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-91969266803035807592015-07-18T11:53:56.708-05:002015-07-18T11:53:56.708-05:00Sonny ~ I doubt we're all alike in this, but ...Sonny ~ I doubt we're all alike in this, but perhaps human nature does skew slightly in that direction. Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-48933974493734427472015-07-18T11:52:42.727-05:002015-07-18T11:52:42.727-05:00Re - Trashing the Moon. We've only been in sp...Re - Trashing the Moon. We've only been in space about six decades and already we've trashed the orbital surrounding the Earth. We have the giant, great Pacific and Atlantic garbage patches of floating trash in our oceans, so as above, so below.<br /><br /><br />"Indeed, a canopy of trash envelops our planet. Orbiting swarms of junk careen into each other like billiard balls, creating unpredictable sprays of debris, which in turn meld with other space garbage to weave a moving net around the atmosphere.<br /><br />All told, there may be millions of pieces of man-made debris in orbit. Nobody knows how much. Tracking network monitors about 18,000 of the largest objects, issuing warnings whenever one of them passes too near a spacecraft or satellite."<br />http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB123568403874486701mike (again)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-8111854990507872172015-07-18T10:47:16.942-05:002015-07-18T10:47:16.942-05:00Information on HR 1599:
http://www.agardenfortheh...Information on HR 1599:<br /><br />http://www.agardenforthehouse.com/2015/07/why-ive-asked-my-congress-critter-to-vote-no-on-hr-1599/<br /><br />This link has petition for NO vote HR 1599:<br />http://salsa3.salsalabs.com/o/1881/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=14356<br /><br />http://www.fooddemocracynow.org/blog/2015/may/13mike (again)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-76601850936237101962015-07-18T10:39:23.586-05:002015-07-18T10:39:23.586-05:00Until we learn to live with nature and in harmony ...Until we learn to live with nature and in harmony with our Earth, I'd just as soon leave the Moon out of the picture. Humans are better characterized as a viral disease, so why spread the contagion? Somehow or other I accept that humans are part of the Earth's evolution, but that doesn't mean we will have a permanent assignment here. We can't be trusted...LOL.<br /><br />As I often comment, corporations are not a species of their own...they are abstract creations of humans. It intrigues me that these conglomerates are representative of our shadow nature, exhibiting traits unbecoming if assigned to any one individual, but considered desirable should an individual desire to join by employment or investment. The same can be said of governments as representatives of we the people, but become controllers and destroyers of individual rights.<br /><br />And speaking of corporations and government as destroyers, there is a bill, HR 1599, “The Safe and Accurate Food Labeling Act”, that I hope anyone reading this will write to the congressional representative(s) and encourage a NO vote. It's a disgusting Monsanto-esque type of proposed legislation.<br /><br />There is another bill, HR 913, "Genetically Engineered Food Right-to-Know Act" that counters HR 1599. Please encourage a YES vote.<br /><br />You can "sign" a request for HR 913 "Yes vote" and in the "Personalize your message" section delete the provided text and request a NO vote on HR 1599:<br />https://secure.consumersunion.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=3011mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-24070457337946934682015-07-18T08:42:05.692-05:002015-07-18T08:42:05.692-05:00as for giving an inch and taking a mile, I've ...as for giving an inch and taking a mile, I've never met a single individual who doesn't go that so how can we expect anymore from corps. or governments.. <br /><br />glad you enjoyed the movie. Sonny Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06926830309207639536noreply@blogger.com