tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post7094098440354423995..comments2024-03-17T03:42:21.277-05:00Comments on LEARNING CURVE ON THE ECLIPTIC: "Thank You for Your Service"Twilighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-22547780287454156492012-10-16T13:41:42.519-05:002012-10-16T13:41:42.519-05:00Wisewebwoman ~~ there's a feel of soft-sell-fa...<br />Wisewebwoman ~~ there's a feel of soft-sell-fascism in it, I agree, especially when done in public, TV etc. for no apparent specific reason.<br /><br />Freedom is comparative I guess, WWW, but again the word could bear to see a deal more edits from political speeches.Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-44681255335403535652012-10-16T13:37:15.692-05:002012-10-16T13:37:15.692-05:00mike ~~~ Thank you indeed for a beautifully balanc...mike ~~~ Thank you indeed for a beautifully balanced and reasoned comment. I was half-dreading, and wondering how I'd deal with, the wrath of some red-blooded right-wing armchair warrior, but feel more than grateful for your approach to the topic.<br /><br />As you've probably gathered I'm "not from around here" and though I've gleaned facts of recent US history, could never glean the embedded feelings to go with them. <br /><br />You've put this thing into perspective for me. Thank you.<br /><br />I can't change myself and the feelings I've gathered from my life's experiences, but understanding another's point of view helps a great deal.<br /><br />My approach to the issue probably won't change though, unless circumstances change radically, and the military do actually begin to defend and save citizens of the USA in the USA and elsewhere, rather than killing citizens of countries with an abundance of oil for reasons trumped up by those in power.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-39070235443503258252012-10-16T12:21:59.149-05:002012-10-16T12:21:59.149-05:00Hmmm...my thoughts on your post are complex. The ...Hmmm...my thoughts on your post are complex. The US currently has a "volunteer" militia. Woe be to those individuals that signed-up with the reserves prior to the Bush administration! The voluntary recruits represent disproportionate socioeconomic strata that favors lower income, less educated individuals. This alone can induce guilt amongst the golden parents and their children...some "unfortunate" is protecting your homeland. The military, for several years, was the only "company" hiring that also paid benefits, and they took many individuals that would not be considered as desirable by most real employers...what's an eighteen year old drop out going to do, specially with baby on the way?<br /><br />Little Bush turned the Middle East countries into a battle ground, resounding with patriotic duties to defend this area and our sacred American soil..."are ya fer us or agin us?"..."Where's your US flag pin?"..."Neuklur weapons of mass destruction!" (sometimes interspersed with the bio-terrorist traveling lab). Supporting our troops became a mantra of the Bush administration.<br /><br />The draft ended in 1973 after the hugely unpopular Vietnam war. The returning soldiers were met with hostility and lack of support upon their return to the US. Most of those returning soldiers are now grandparents and feel pretty strongly about supporting the current troops in a fashion that was never afforded them.<br /><br />Add Westboro Baptist Church into the mix, too. They protest the funerals of fallen soldiers (and many other events), because of heaven's wrath upon the US, particularly for homosexuality. This doesn't sit with our exuberant patriotism and requires an increased enthusiasm to offset the Fred Phelps' clan.<br /><br />And we can't forget our favorite talking heads such as Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, etc. They have made gazillions off of defining what patriotism is for us, primarily by their accounting of the "unpatriotic". Can you count the endless blather dribbled from their mouths about how UNpatriotic some idiot was for not supporting our troops...or for not wearing their flag pin...or questioning whether someone was REALLY holding their right hand over their heart during the national anthem? The conservative right has attempted to black-list as thoroughly as Joe McCarthy himself.<br /><br />I doubt that some troop in Arizona controlling the drones over Pakistan particularly asked for that position, but probably felt that was a better trade than actually flying over Pakistan dropping bombs per instructions from superiors (ultimately our President Obama).<br /><br />I must say that I personally feel that many individuals are doing a job that I would prefer not doing, and I would never volunteer for it, either. The least I can do is offer my respect (and condolences). Without the volunteers, our military would have again become a draft militia...2004 brought much debate regarding conscription.mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-14053297437891949182012-10-16T11:16:12.775-05:002012-10-16T11:16:12.775-05:00Yes I read him too, T, often I can't finish as...Yes I read him too, T, often I can't finish as it just hurts too much.<br /><br />There are too many shades of fascism in this saluting of unknown military geeks in uniform sitting in first class.<br /><br />Frankly, it creeps me out. And sp does this incessant talk of "freedoms" shee-ite, an oligarchy is now freedom?<br /><br />XO<br />WWWWisewebwomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15281689872840844191noreply@blogger.com