tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post6739724561403968216..comments2024-03-17T03:42:21.277-05:00Comments on LEARNING CURVE ON THE ECLIPTIC: Aquarian Neil Diamond To Be HonoredTwilighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-25327602483261359432009-02-06T15:28:00.000-06:002009-02-06T15:28:00.000-06:00Thanks for such a comprehensive answer, Twilight. ...Thanks for such a comprehensive answer, Twilight. I agree with what you have said and it does make sense (maybe an Aquarian thing...lol)<BR/><BR/>By the way there is always the <BR/><BR/>Uni-Verse<BR/>One-SongRossahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06121831076599069841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-58372402247499633802009-02-06T13:37:00.000-06:002009-02-06T13:37:00.000-06:00AN ~~~ Short verse/Is no worse/Than long/Song. ...AN ~~~ Short verse/Is no worse/Than long/Song. ;-)<BR/><BR/>Agreed - there's no concrete answer to the topic under consideration, it's all a matter of personal perception. :-)Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-26579842524098242562009-02-06T10:03:00.000-06:002009-02-06T10:03:00.000-06:00That's what debate is all about / Disagreeing with...That's what debate is all about / Disagreeing without falling out / Having our own specific views / That way, knowledge we infuse<BR/><BR/>Sorry about that. Blame Twitter. I'm getting addicted to short poetry :-)anthonynorthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06680944720744601697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-2828494818057941782009-02-06T08:44:00.000-06:002009-02-06T08:44:00.000-06:00Hi AN! ~~~ Hmmmm - I'd have been disappointed too...Hi AN! ~~~ Hmmmm - I'd have been disappointed too. I suppose Neil was using the engagement to sell his wares, as they do on TV chat shows nowadays. He has written so many superb songs. I don't think he gets suficient credit - probably because he wasn't one of the gang who ripped up hotel rooms,needed rehab-ing, etc. Not cool enough for some perhaps, but fine for me! :-)<BR/><BR/>Re astrology/occult/esoteric - we shall have to agree to disagree, for I don't even class it as esoteric. There's no secrecy about it, it's not for the chosen few - if I can do it anybody can do it. I taught myself. It's as open as the sky. It's a part of nature and nature is neither occult nor esoteric. This just is my opinion, and I do respect your views AN. :-)Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-45524144152856138392009-02-06T05:10:00.000-06:002009-02-06T05:10:00.000-06:00I like Diamond, but was a bit disappointed with hi...I like Diamond, but was a bit disappointed with him at last year's Glastonbury Festival. I was looking forward to all his old hits - he was booked in the 'nostalgia' slot - and most of his stuff was from his new album. A shame.<BR/> I won't join the 'astrology as ocuult or not' debate here, as I can see it is down to various interpretations. Maybe a better term for all these disciplines would be 'esoteric sciences or arts'.anthonynorthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06680944720744601697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-77675538884983599032009-02-05T11:43:00.000-06:002009-02-05T11:43:00.000-06:00Rossa~~~ I was going to go back to AN's blog and c...Rossa~~~ I was going to go back to AN's blog and comment again, but decided against it. <BR/><BR/>Hmmm - let's see - personally I see astrology as quite different from all occult stuff. Occult means "hidden" - astrology isn't hidden - it's there for anyone to use if they spend time learning the basic principles.<BR/><BR/>We don't know how it works, but it works a lot of the time, and one day, I'm confident that the reason will become clear.<BR/><BR/>Astrology arose originally from astronomy - which is definitely not part of the occult. Astronomers were often also astrologers in the distant past - maybe not all that distant, come to think of it.<BR/><BR/>When astrologers interpret or predict they need an ephemeris to calculate positions of the planets (or nowadays astrology software).<BR/>It's not an intuitive thing like reading palms or phrenology or reading the future from tea leaves, or from the entrails of a goat, or like obtaining messages via an ouija board. <BR/><BR/>What astrologers are able to say about a person or a situation is guided solely by the movement and cycles of the planets. They can use intuition to put their comments into context for a client, but planetary positions have "given" meanings within fairly tight parameters. If a planet isn't in a certain position, the astrologer cannot make up something to fit the situation...or intuit something more suitable.<BR/><BR/>The magical connection, I think, is something which occultists, wiccans etc used/use to help their work - if they cast a "spell" they wanted to do it in the right kind of atmosphere for it to be successful. They'd use information available from astrology, just as they might use information available from a weather forecast to make sure their bonfire wouldn't be put out by rain.<BR/><BR/>Alchemists attributed metals to planets, so in that way it was associated with astrology, and astrologers might well have practiced alchemy in the distant past. In those days there were very few highly educated individuals around, and those who had education and knowledge tended to dabble in everything available to them, I guess. <BR/><BR/>I don't know whether I'm making sense here....it's not easy to explain and I can see why many people do connect astrology to the occult. But to me it's as clear as crystal that astrology is something quite different. <BR/><BR/>Skeptics/sceptics like to lump astrology in with other stuff they delight in discrediting, without spending time and effort to do a little research on the subject.<BR/><BR/>I'm confident that the bare bones of astrology will one day be validated (not all of what astrologers do, but the basic principle). That's via my own intuition or instinct....or something! :-)Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-44807130912385584452009-02-05T11:00:00.000-06:002009-02-05T11:00:00.000-06:00Interesting comment on the Behenian Stars, though ...Interesting comment on the Behenian Stars, though I would like to ask something.<BR/><BR/>On AN's blog yesterday you said in your comment that you don't believe astrology is the occult and yet the Wikipedia entry refers to the occult and magical associations with these stars. Am I missing something here?<BR/><BR/>Surely in the ancient traditions astrology, alchemy, occult and other practices overlapped, went hand in hand?<BR/><BR/>Apart from Algol, I have Vega on my Ascendant. I like Neil Diamond's music though I wouldn't describe myself as a fan. I don't have any CDs but will sing along to his songs if they come up on the radio.Rossahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06121831076599069841noreply@blogger.com