tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post6396235801418277714..comments2024-03-17T03:42:21.277-05:00Comments on LEARNING CURVE ON THE ECLIPTIC: ARGO "the best bad idea we have, sir"Twilighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-23689785778452701182012-10-19T08:48:09.207-05:002012-10-19T08:48:09.207-05:00Chomp ~~ Sorry, yes, I ought to have written that ...Chomp ~~ Sorry, yes, I ought to have written that their more innately passionate nature allows the people of that part of the world to react to and express their anger and disappointment when betrayed.<br /><br />And I do agree that it's almost impossible for those outside of the situation to properly understand how they feel.<br /><br />By "underworlds" Chomp, I think you refer to the under-privileged? Am I right?<br />(The term "underworld" especially in the USA, has picked up other connotions relating to crime, and I didn't want any future reader to get the wrong idea. :-)<br />Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-65288721822765891942012-10-19T03:16:14.815-05:002012-10-19T03:16:14.815-05:00Well it is far more complicated than an issue of b...Well it is far more complicated than an issue of being passionate... <br /><br />It is far more an issue of betrayed hopes, as you said... <br /><br />But what I personally am interested in is not to judge, but to understand, and it is clear that those underworlds are difficult to be understood... <br />It is difficult to us to depict the inner mental state of people involved in those situations of life... <br /><br />Anyway let me simply add that the underworlds do exist even inside the West, unseen and too many times unperceived... <br /><br />Chomphttp://www.myspace.com/noamchomsky_fandiscussion/blog/530263985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-54793526924456223152012-10-18T08:29:14.924-05:002012-10-18T08:29:14.924-05:00Chomp ~~ Hollywood's involvement in this true ...Chomp ~~ Hollywood's involvement in this true story was key to being able to get the 6 people out of Iran, so what can at times seem amoral about the film industry, in this case did work for good. :-)<br /><br />The crowd scenes in the film were especially un-nerving and unsettling Chomp, and very well done.<br /><br />I realise that people of those ethnic roots are more passionate by far than people, like me, of a quieter western nature. <br /><br />Empires of one stripe or another have been cruel to those peoples over the centuries - I don't wonder at all that they feel abused and used. As you say, they strive to better their situation, only to find that when their revolutions die down, they are no better off, betrayed once again.<br /><br />I feel terribly sad for them.<br /> <br /><br />Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-31819491657220783902012-10-18T08:17:53.577-05:002012-10-18T08:17:53.577-05:00Wisewebwoman ~~ Yes the Canadian role, though expl...Wisewebwoman ~~ Yes the Canadian role, though explained clearly, was played down, mainly to provide more dramatic effect in presenting the story of the actual escape, I suppose.Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-45317628632541069992012-10-18T02:57:54.827-05:002012-10-18T02:57:54.827-05:00I have not watched that film but it may appear to ...I have not watched that film but it may appear to have two interesting topics contained in it: The first, is the Hollywood amoral film world, perhaps the most evident it may appear, considered the reactions to the film I could read up to now; The second is Iran in the time of its dark revolution.<br /><br />Very interesting to be pondered both but especially, in point of view, the second topic, considered how it influenced the spreading of religious Islamic integralism and considered in the pale light of today political events and their dark impending shadow... <br /><br />I do understand the Eastern crowds, so deprived of any hope but ta the same time slow to be moved but terrible when moved, and so open to rage. You must have seen and watched and perceived them in order to understand. This is not a justification but only an attempt to understand their behaviour... <br /><br />The dark belly of teh Empire, the underworld: All this remembers me that Dostoevskij’s ol’ book, “Notes from Underground”, the “Underground” of an Empire Of Ye Olde like Persian’s, ready to be moved like an earthquake. <br /><br />After the earthquake life’s returned to the ol’ situation bu’ the new governors are as irremovable - or even more!! - than the former existing ones... <br /><br />An’ life’s returned to be without hope, with no hope again and again... And again and again, ready only for next earthquake, dark, from the underground, evoked by some jinn of revenge, a dark angel of vengeance... <br /><br />In the great turmoils of political arena a strange lack of sound dominates. After the big turmoils there is instead a strange sadness that nothing’s really changed... <br /><br />And so it is, he ideals hacve always been betrayed, and ever will be betrayed... <br /><br />We saw this script even in Russian Revolution which was in something very similar to Iranian Revolution <br />Chomphttp://www.myspace.com/noamchomsky_fandiscussion/blog/530263985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-78900345657119806662012-10-17T19:25:05.101-05:002012-10-17T19:25:05.101-05:00On my list, I remember it well. Though from what I...On my list, I remember it well. Though from what I hear (and you mention) the Canadian role was played down while the USian was played up.<br />Par for the course...:)<br />XO<br />WWWWisewebwomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15281689872840844191noreply@blogger.com