tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post5350310608442609135..comments2024-03-17T03:42:21.277-05:00Comments on LEARNING CURVE ON THE ECLIPTIC: Another One Bit the DustTwilighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-79617279228594625382012-11-13T08:22:26.904-06:002012-11-13T08:22:26.904-06:00Wisewebwoman ~ The only appropriate answer to that...Wisewebwoman ~ The only appropriate answer to that, WWW is<br />"Stick a fork in him - he's done!"<br />:-DTwilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-42406141274714518942012-11-12T21:27:39.015-06:002012-11-12T21:27:39.015-06:00Sorry to inject a soupcon of crude here, T my dear...Sorry to inject a soupcon of crude here, T my dear, but never underestimate the power of the sausage.<br />XO<br />WWWWisewebwomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15281689872840844191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-68035112104146551162012-11-12T13:57:53.448-06:002012-11-12T13:57:53.448-06:00camel not cammel...camel not cammel...Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-51810159506989129792012-11-12T13:57:28.327-06:002012-11-12T13:57:28.327-06:00mike ~~ Straws are good - didn't one once brea...mike ~~ Straws are good - didn't one once break the proverbial back of a cammel ;-)<br /><br />Those are good points, Mike - I didn't look for anything related to the planetary fast-movers, but in this case they work, and well!<br /><br />I did almost mention his Saturn return, but though it too far distant to seem relevant to current scenarios. However, as I think I once found out for myself, that sometimes uncomfortable Return can spread tentacles far and wide, before and after. <br /><br />I'll keep in mind the 2 December dates you mention, or the time around then. <br /><br />I, too, think this isn't going to be a hot topic for a week then disappear. More is involved than an affair. More, and undercover of Neptune, no doubt. Neptune's illusion/delusion and fog is somehow involved here....and Petraeus has Saturn conjunct Neptune.Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-1858047671390382502012-11-12T13:18:23.890-06:002012-11-12T13:18:23.890-06:00It's always easy to grabs straws with astrolog...It's always easy to grabs straws with astrology...so here are my straws! The disclosure to the president of his affair coincides with transiting Mars conjunct his natal Venus, November 3rd. Disclosure to the public coincides with transiting Mercury at 4 Sagittarius, turning retrograde, November 6th, but nearing conjunction with his natal Mercury, during his solar return. This probably isn't leaving the public's eye for some time. Next month, December 11-14 are interesting days, as trans Mars conj natal Mars, trans Mercury leaves its retrograde shadow nearing conj natal Mercury, and a new Moon occurs on natal Venus.<br /><br />20 degrees of Gemini is the focus of his yod, opposing Petraeus' Venus, so my guess is that this started to unravel back in June, when trans Venus retrograded at 24 Gemini and conjuncted Sun at 15 Gemini...trans Mercury was with the Sun-Venus conj and trans Saturn was retro-direct conj natal Neptune and Saturn in Libra...Petraeus had just finished his Saturn return!mike (again)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-26021546594961324932012-11-12T12:09:14.798-06:002012-11-12T12:09:14.798-06:00Sonny ~~~ Oh yes - well-spotted, that's right...Sonny ~~~ Oh yes - well-spotted, that's right, kd does have Sun in Scorpio. :-)Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-32003089656099165262012-11-12T12:06:08.236-06:002012-11-12T12:06:08.236-06:00mike ~~~ Oh yes! Brilliant! Thanks for this asses...mike ~~~ Oh yes! Brilliant! Thanks for this assessment. It all fits so very well.<br /><br />I especially like the Yod configuration, I usually pounce on any Yod immediately, but in this case missed it in favour of what I originally saw as good integration.<br /><br />I looked for any planetary transits going on last week which could be implicated specifically in his downfall, but saw nothing obviously related to his chart. However, investigations have been ongoing for some weeks, so the recent general unease in the prevailing astro-atmosphere could have found yet another victim in Petraeus.<br /> <br /><br /><br /><br /> Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-9620315235089038322012-11-12T11:04:13.114-06:002012-11-12T11:04:13.114-06:00Twilight..
I think your music was interesting and...Twilight..<br /> I think your music was interesting and maybe even prophetic.. one scorp singing about 2 others. KD Lang Nov.2,1961.. Sonny Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06926830309207639536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-15165399198094482242012-11-12T10:49:57.070-06:002012-11-12T10:49:57.070-06:00Well, since you're asking, I agree with your a...Well, since you're asking, I agree with your assessment of Sun opposed Jupiter...an over-expanded ego potential. His Jupiter and Venus are in mutual reception, as is Sun and Pluto, but Sun (ego) squares Pluto (sex). His Sun, Mercury, Mars, Saturn, Neptune, and Pluto all have dispositors back to Venus-Jupiter in mutual reception (assuming that Mars is co-ruler of Scorpio), but Venus is yod with Moon-Uranus and Jupiter.<br /><br />I think this is a person that has a split view of women and compartmentalizes feminine love and desire (Venus) versus feminine nurturing (Moon) and is rather irrational, cold, and rebellious emotionally (Moon conj Uranus). I suspect he would enjoy long deployments while having a wife-mother-home waiting for his return.<br /><br />His Venus-Jupiter side of the yod would give him potential as a womanizer. The yod's focus is Mercury-ruled Gemini, which further defines the split as an intellectualization of the role of women in his life.<br /><br />His view of Paula Broadwell is as a desirable woman of equal intelligence and abilities. His view of his wife is emotionally fulfilling as a mother, nurturer, child-bearer, homemaker, particularly since his career distances himself from that.<br /><br />I doubt this is new territory for Petraeus. With his dispositors back to Venus-Jupiter, his expansive desire nature to experience love and beauty is paramount to many of his inner processes...perhaps even as the good warrior's ultimate battle.mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-40140339119956557552012-11-12T10:27:33.489-06:002012-11-12T10:27:33.489-06:00DC & Sonny
Strange thing - as I was reading a...DC & Sonny<br /><br />Strange thing - as I was reading and responding to your comments I had a CD on my computer media player - a kd lang album. The track playing was "Hallelujah"....<br /><br /><i>You saw her bathing on the roof<br />Her beauty in the moonlight overthrew you<br />She tied you to a kitchen chair<br />She broke your throne, and she cut your hair<br />And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah</i><br /><br />Hmmm - Odd synchronicity.Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-54325977271989428882012-11-12T10:22:30.812-06:002012-11-12T10:22:30.812-06:00DC ~~ Thanks for your astrological input - it...DC ~~ Thanks for your astrological input - it's appreciated. :-)<br />I see what you're getting at, and agree - but still have to wonder about astrologers' interpretation of Jupiter's role. I suspect it can be destructive at times.<br /><br />Having Venus in Sagittarius myself - well - LOL! I did exactly what your last sentence states - but didn't have to betray anybody to do so.<br /><br />I've just read a piece at Anti-War blog - the idea of Ms Broadwell "a Honeypot" is put forward there - quite convincingly.<br /><br />Link<br /><br />http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2012/11/11/a-covert-affair-petraeus-caught-in-the-honeypot/ Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-90991245878897332732012-11-12T10:15:48.408-06:002012-11-12T10:15:48.408-06:00Sonny ~~ That's a view that many people have l...Sonny ~~ That's a view that many people have likely arrived at, rightly or wrongly. It's a wee bit of a cliché though: the ageing guy whose wife of many years no longer looks as glamorous as once she may have done (neither does he, by the way, but he has picked up fame and/or power and/or wealth on his own roll through life). we can name any number of examples of this.<br />It happens. Shit happens.<br /><br />I'm not convinced that that's all there is to Petraeus's story though. It's part of it, but just the part we're allowed to know - so far.<br /> Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-58753584806666668892012-11-12T09:18:30.542-06:002012-11-12T09:18:30.542-06:00His actions undermined his mome..should be..His ac...His actions undermined his mome..should be..His actions undermined his home...sorryDChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03404195170822950372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-61373372537967936112012-11-12T09:16:02.085-06:002012-11-12T09:16:02.085-06:00I think venus in Sagittarius doomed him....and alo...I think venus in Sagittarius doomed him....and along with the expansion.....and sense of roaming and idealism this creates...desires (Scorpio and the home Cancer)well the writing is on the wall. Especially with another Scorpio. Just a thought.<br />Funny also that it all "came to roost" during the sun in Scorpio right before a solar eclipse. Just another thought.<br />Too many desires...too many feelings....for a man with Jupiter in such a steady earth sign such as Taurus. With his watery (emotional) indicators pointing towards home and desires....security and the feminine...it just puzzles me to think a man of such strength (apparent) could go in such a wrong direction. Maybe it was the flood of attention that prompted him to make such a moronic move. Ego maybe. who knows....maybe...and just another thought....the Cancer moon mars opposition could have a bit to do with his contradictions of sound judgements and feelings....especially where it mattered...on the home front. His actions undermined his mome so to speak. Venus in Sag could also be an indicator of traveling to "far away places" to find his displaced sense of comfort...maybe.DChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03404195170822950372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-75860891740339131952012-11-12T08:53:44.736-06:002012-11-12T08:53:44.736-06:00I will leave it to your astrological expertise to ...I will leave it to your astrological expertise to see the charts and just say this from a strickly Human perspective. I mean no offence by my statement . One look at the General and his spouse was all it took for me to know, they came to a life style deal long ago..we can talk all we want about vows and faithfulness and such but that wont take care of the difference between Loving and Desiring. I may love and appreciate my volvo but when a bright shiny corvette , well maintained Corvette rolls by, it crosses my mind to take it for a test drive and on several occasions, I have.. Granted I enjoy my time in the corvette and then I park it and go home to my volvo.. I hope that analogy confers my thoughts on this issue.<br /> I wish all of them well and I hope this fiasco doesnt interfere with the countries business which it sorely needs to get about.<br /> Sonny Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06926830309207639536noreply@blogger.com