tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post5132400464979773505..comments2024-03-17T03:42:21.277-05:00Comments on LEARNING CURVE ON THE ECLIPTIC: Music Monday ~ Sir Edward Elgar - Pomp & Graduation Twilighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-45294202909078016742014-06-03T00:05:41.225-05:002014-06-03T00:05:41.225-05:00mike (again) ~ Hmmm - interesting!
This especial...mike (again) ~ Hmmm - interesting!<br /><br />This especially would seem to fit what's known about him.<br /><br /><i>...robs the native of the cooperation of those whom he alienates by his particular species of obtuse deafness to any or all argument that runs counter to his own concepts. </i>Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-60809515191723831782014-06-02T19:22:04.306-05:002014-06-02T19:22:04.306-05:00Thought about this after I posted...he has Mercury...Thought about this after I posted...he has Mercury and Mars combust. The typical interpretation is that the planet is absorbed by the Sun and not too operative. Elgar's Sun is in Gemini ruled by Mercury, so this is probably one of the better placements for the Sun conjunct Mercury, other than Virgo.<br /><br />From http://www.astrologyweekly.com/dictionary/combust.php<br /><br />"Said of a planet when in extreme closeness to the Sun, the limits variously placed at from 3° to 8°30'. The characteristic effect to which the term applies is probably confined within an arc of 3° and is more pronounced when the planet rises after the Sun. Older authorities, including Milton, have described it as weakening, except in the case of Mars which was said to be intensified. The probabilities are that the effect of the combust condition is to combine the planet's influence more closely with that of the Sun, until it is no longer a physical emotion capable of independent control, but an integral part of that consciousness of Destiny that the Sun imparts. Thus Mercury combust imparts to the mind a capacity for concentration upon what it deems its own destiny, but robs it of its receptivity to distracting or diverting influences. Hence it is no bar to the achievement of its own objectives insofar as the ability to achieve them is within its own powers, but it robs the native of the cooperation of those whom he alienates by his particular species of obtuse deafness to any or all argument that runs counter to his own concepts. Edison and Kant both illustrate this interpretation. Venus combust may take away the strength to achieve, but when in a particularly close conjunction with the Sun it produces the condition sometimes termed nymphomania - described by Bolitho concerning Lola Montez. Mars combust is always the man who fights for what he wants; and so with each planet according to its intrinsic nature."mike (again)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-18268958894066254182014-06-02T14:54:06.839-05:002014-06-02T14:54:06.839-05:00mike ~ Thanks for the extra astrological pointers,...mike ~ Thanks for the extra astrological pointers, all good ones. Yes, he could have been misunderstood by some people. Those were very different times. Today in England, he'd probably have been up before a tribunal for sexual harassment if some of the gossip were true...but then so would half the Victorian male population. Thank goodness for time's changes, and here's to a few more to come!<br /><br />I have to be in the right mood for his music, even then I only like the better-known bits - but when he was good he <b>was</b> very, very good. Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-50569885290795540262014-06-02T11:55:48.713-05:002014-06-02T11:55:48.713-05:00I would say his ego was conflated with a quickened...I would say his ego was conflated with a quickened mind and physical action with his Sun-Mercury-Mars conjunction and Mercury in retrograde...intellectual, high-strung, aggressive in approach. This may have been off-putting toward his acquaintances and critics that were not personal friends. Jupiter conjunct Pluto could exacerbate a need for the traditional and conservative, particularly in materialistic Taurus, which may explain his affection for marches and the more staid types of music, and his fondness for mystification. His Sun and Mars are disposited by Mercury in Gemini...all other planets are disposited by Venus in Taurus. His ego expression and action were under the control of his mental acumen...all else, including his emotional response, was under the guise of sensual, materialistic Venus in loyal, determined Taurus. This may have contributed to the perception of a devious, split personality. I would imagine that he was more misunderstood rather than creepy...LOL.<br /><br />His Moon may or may not play a large role in aspects, as it could be anywhere from 9* to 21* Libra.<br /><br />He made a mark on the world, whether he was liked or not. The Victorian era was a weird several decades that I wouldn't have felt too comfortable enduring...everything was scrutinized with a moral determinant in mind and social consistency was very desirable. Misfits need not apply.mikenoreply@blogger.com