tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post2050904320019295256..comments2024-03-17T03:42:21.277-05:00Comments on LEARNING CURVE ON THE ECLIPTIC: New Pope and Two PiecesTwilighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-39372978476826877132013-03-18T08:27:41.718-05:002013-03-18T08:27:41.718-05:00James Higham ~ There's little we can agree on,...James Higham ~ There's little we can agree on, so probably not. ;-)Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-6512519750530890682013-03-18T05:42:58.022-05:002013-03-18T05:42:58.022-05:00Nor do I but I wonder if it's for the same rea...Nor do I but I wonder if it's for the same reasons, Twilight?James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-24700934592986523572013-03-17T09:47:59.073-05:002013-03-17T09:47:59.073-05:00Ben ~ Hi! Yes, there's a lot more to Pope Fra...Ben ~ Hi! Yes, there's a lot more to Pope Francis than "simplicity and humility", that's for sure. <br /><br />I've just read this on the topic at the Christian Science Monitor:<br /><br />http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Latest-News-Wires/2013/0316/Pope-Francis-stumbles-video-Vatican-criticizes-left-wing-media-campaign<br /><br />The church is, apparently, blaming a left-wing smear campaign for the stories involving the Pope with the Argentine junta's atrocities. Well - they would, wouldn't they? They hate anything left of middle-road conservative. <br /><br />At the very least the new Pope failed to speak out against the atrocities at the time. I think the previous Pope also failed to speak out - in his case against Nazi atrocities. Seems to be a failing of Popes doesn't it?Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-17919645348408260032013-03-17T07:38:36.529-05:002013-03-17T07:38:36.529-05:00It's his very close ties to the former militar...It's his very close ties to the former military dictatorships in Argentina that people should be concerned about. <br />This man is associated with the most rabid vicious right wing politics in South America.<br /> <br />He oversaw the extermination of left leaning priests during the military junta era and clearly has blood on his hands.<br /><br />So all in all, he's clearly perfect for the role of Pope. Just like the Borgias before him.Bennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-47433677614877551202013-03-16T23:11:18.607-05:002013-03-16T23:11:18.607-05:00Sabina - PS I deleted the duplicated comment. ;-)...Sabina - PS I deleted the duplicated comment. ;-)Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-30728154121234056772013-03-16T23:10:42.627-05:002013-03-16T23:10:42.627-05:00Sabina ~~ Thanks for the pointer to Robert Wilkin...Sabina ~~ Thanks for the pointer to Robert Wilkinson's piece - good one!<br /><br />Pope Francis, if what we are reading is the truth, must have two very distinct sides to his personality - or perhaps some of it is fiction, RC propaganda or guesswork and exaggeration on the part of the press. I grow cynical when press stories don't add up. Humility doesn't go with the rest of the story...but it's good PR. <br />Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-97328136074932562013-03-16T17:58:13.549-05:002013-03-16T17:58:13.549-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-9273859383436854002013-03-16T17:56:58.310-05:002013-03-16T17:56:58.310-05:00Robert Wilkinson over at Aquarius Papers has manag...Robert Wilkinson over at Aquarius Papers has managed to address all this Popey-ness in an oblique yet apt manner in his piece entitled, 'Bearing the Cost of Doing the Right Thing.'<br />For my part, I imagine hell will have to freeze over before I can muster anything nice to say about the Church of Rome.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-44736180258800495902013-03-16T15:35:19.940-05:002013-03-16T15:35:19.940-05:00Sonny ~ That's a nicely balanced view of the s...Sonny ~ That's a nicely balanced view of the situation, Sonny. :-)<br />From what I've read he has to be a bit of an enigma.....but aren't we all? <br /><br />In a way his election reminds me a bit of the election of President Obama (twice). In his case the country was in dire need of someone who would seem to be the opposite of the previous incumbent (emphasis on SEEM) - to please the people who were disgusted and disgruntled.<br /><br />In the Pope's case, the Roman Catholic Church was in dire need of a figure who would be able to gloss over or change the icky reputation left behind by the previous incumbent. <br /><br />Similar situation.<br /><br />It didn't quite work in the first case - in the second? Time alone will tell.<br /><br /><br /><br /> Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-31533666566509505642013-03-16T15:11:47.015-05:002013-03-16T15:11:47.015-05:00From what I've read he is called Humble by tho...<br /> From what I've read he is called Humble by those who know him,, but he is also ultra conservative in his thoughts and thats all I need to be clear about the fact that he wont be acting like Jesus, who's love and compassion was for ALL.. <br /><br /> thats my take on it anyway.Sonny Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06926830309207639536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-62586474647335586452013-03-16T13:37:00.771-05:002013-03-16T13:37:00.771-05:00Anonymous ~~ Enough to say that all the hoo-haa a...Anonymous ~~ Enough to say that all the hoo-haa about the new Pope being humble is a wee bit premature until it becomes clear how he will act in his new role. Humble and The Vatican are two words which do not usually appear together - the opposite in fact. If he's a "Pope of the people" - well - we shall see in time, but it's a hasty conclusion to come to without evidence in his newly appointed exalted position.<br /><br />I perhaps ought to have written "I have nothing nice to say YET." Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-78004203329805086252013-03-16T12:37:11.853-05:002013-03-16T12:37:11.853-05:00I can understand if you have "nothing to say,...I can understand if you have "nothing to say," but if you have "nothing NICE to say" then you have certainly piqued my curiosity. Can you elaborate, just a little?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com