tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post7606354106108470632..comments2024-03-17T03:42:21.277-05:00Comments on LEARNING CURVE ON THE ECLIPTIC: Running with LoganTwilighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-42131708729548590032016-06-15T00:10:27.235-05:002016-06-15T00:10:27.235-05:00Anonymous ~ Thanks for your comment. I'm stil...Anonymous ~ Thanks for your comment. I'm still hoping to see some more news of a re-make, or prequel :-) We're in need of some decent sci-fi!Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-66839581588525722332016-06-13T13:33:03.794-05:002016-06-13T13:33:03.794-05:00I remember Logan's Run well. I was a young te...I remember Logan's Run well. I was a young teen at the time that it came out and I was completely smitten with the futuristic romance of it all. It was also exciting to see Farrah Fawcett in a bit role. She was being launched to minor stardom at that time. I carried these fond memories for about a decade until, as an adult, I got a chance to see the movie again in video format. My fun fantasies were completely shattered when I realised how bad the screenplay actually was. I agree that it could be a better film if made today. The prequel idea is a good one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-12037710787749614832014-04-04T09:20:35.350-05:002014-04-04T09:20:35.350-05:00RoyJ ~ I've taken your advice and read Wiki...RoyJ ~ I've taken your advice and read Wiki's pages on Levine and on <i>Bioshock</i>, where I read that:<br /><br /><i>In regard to artistic influences, Levine cited the books Nineteen Eighty-Four and Logan's Run, representing societies that have "really interesting ideas screwed up by the fact that we're people</i><br /><br />The fact that he was inspired/influenced by LR (the book) gives me hope, and reminds me that I really must get my hands on the novel myself.<br /><br />Let's hope current remake plans don't hit any more snags. :-)Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-79093156539947582402014-04-03T17:25:33.180-05:002014-04-03T17:25:33.180-05:00You might have been a little unfair, but nobody ca...You might have been a little unfair, but nobody can really blame you. It's hard to be positive about this remake, not only because it's been in development hell for years, but because when it gets to the point they give quite possibly the most important job to someone who's not even a part of the film industry, you'll kind of assume it's just destined for failure.<br /><br />Regardless though, I suggest you read up more about Ken Levine. He's done some stellar work. His games have tackled themes and ideas ranging from Objectivism to American exceptionalism, to metaphysics and quantum mechanics, and plenty others. He's a guy who seems interested in just about everything.Roy_Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-18992562350919048522014-04-03T16:53:59.726-05:002014-04-03T16:53:59.726-05:00RoyJ ~ Hi there! Many thanks for your input. I&#...RoyJ ~ Hi there! Many thanks for your input. I'm glad to have info on Ken Levine from someone who has experience of his video games. Maybe I was being unfair. <br /><br />I agree that "Logan's Run" only fluttered nervously around any kind of message, I hope if the remake does appear they'll underline a few things!<br /><br />Director? Yes, wrong one could make or break a re-do, even moreso than actors - there are lots of good ones around these days, known and unknown.Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-71039461877022635222014-04-03T11:08:28.529-05:002014-04-03T11:08:28.529-05:00I've always had a lot of problems with the fil...I've always had a lot of problems with the film adaptation of Logan's Run. It's messy. Not that messiness stops a movie from being good(I'm probably of the minority that thinks Prometheus is a classic, albeit a flawed and messy one). But the acting isn't quite up to par and the ideas and themes are just kind of there in the background, popping it's head up here and there but never in any significant way.<br /><br />The remake has been in the works for a long time. Though I will say, I'm not particularly worried about Ken Levine writing the screenplay. I've played two of his games, Bioshock and Bioshock: Infinite. Not only does he create fully realized dystopias but he also tackles themes in ways that movies and tv shows can only dream of.<br /><br />It's the director and actors I'll be worried about.Roy_Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-52144988920258916962014-03-31T09:02:03.806-05:002014-03-31T09:02:03.806-05:00ex-Chomp ~ I agree. Whoever produces a re-make wi...ex-Chomp ~ I agree. Whoever produces a re-make will be looking mainly for profit, not for a message; and whoever goes to see a re-make will be looking for spectacle with all deeper thought processes disengaged.<br /><br />Nature will sort us out, eventually though. <br />Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-85680373096038281142014-03-31T01:06:40.539-05:002014-03-31T01:06:40.539-05:00Oh yes, Twilight: You are right... Even now, somet...Oh yes, Twilight: You are right... Even now, something bigger, something greater, something fundamental... can only happen to others! <br /><br />I would agree that a remake may be a good idea, but who may do it: That is a true problem in out times! <br /><br />I mean, too poor thought in our days, too much importance given to the show and to the blockbuster madness, while we mey need some true thinking indeed. <br /><br />Anyway, things will change, that mankind likes it or not. <br /><br />ex-Chompnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-54239674739292286422014-03-30T09:21:33.929-05:002014-03-30T09:21:33.929-05:00ex-Chomp ~ You know, I don't think the true me...ex-Chomp ~ You know, I don't think the true message of the story would have come through back in the 1970s, or '80s. It might now, if a remake were done properly - but even now, we tend to think - 'that won't happen to us - not in our lifetimes'. It's only when there is imminent danger that we start thinking clearly, and acting, and then.....too late.<br /><br />As you say, all the techno madness and we cannot solve one problem - as in my next post!<br />:-/Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-91520204943889689482014-03-30T02:48:54.429-05:002014-03-30T02:48:54.429-05:00Well I do remeber well that old film which did not...Well I do remeber well that old film which did not belong to the series: Oh, what magnificent future!, that was so spread in the Sixties and part of the Seventies, found a sudden eclipse only to restart again in the Eighties. <br /><br />Well, we had seen what astounding future they prepared us! With all this techno madness this world has no means to solve one little problem, indeed... <br /><br />So it is of no surprise they did not a remake, the underlying message of that old movie would sound a bit too actual, indeed... <br /><br />ex-Chompnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-42253524940345954062014-03-29T16:23:05.148-05:002014-03-29T16:23:05.148-05:00LB ~ Thanks for the link - hmm -
15 Capricorn - t...LB ~ Thanks for the link - hmm - <br />15 Capricorn - the Ides of Capricorn, LOL, as fatal as The Ides of March were for J.Caesar. ;-)<br />Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-34346686759861398612014-03-29T15:42:19.502-05:002014-03-29T15:42:19.502-05:00Twilight ~ Here's a link to the site where I ...Twilight ~ Here's a link to the site where I found the info on Logan's Run: http://www.funtrivia.com/en/Movies/Logans-Run-12637.html<br /><br />And here's an excerpt:<br /><br />"Capricorn 15s, born 2244. Instead of using months of the calandar, the city uses Zodiac signs. "Logan's Run" is set in the year 2274. The people participating in Carrousel are born on the 15th day of Capricorn."LBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-58005109634815142982014-03-29T14:20:03.592-05:002014-03-29T14:20:03.592-05:00LB ~ Yes there were parts of the film that reminde...LB ~ Yes there were parts of the film that reminded me of other, later, films too. Ideas seeded in young would-be-writers' minds after seeing <i>Logan's Run</i> back in the '70s, years later could have left their traces in screenplays of the 21st century, I guess. Sci-fi, especially tends to be like that more than other genres I think.<br /><br />Jeff Bridges has the right kind of twinkle in his eye for sure!<br />And he's in the filmed version of <i>The Giver</i> too, again establishing and updating his previous sci-fi credentials.<br /><br />Over-population never gets a look in in the USA - here we're more manic about the evils of abortion and contraception. I suppose Powers That Be prefer to do their bit in keeping world population down via the far more profitable to them WAR WAR WAR....(don't get me started!)<br /><br />LB(again)...I had a sentence in my post originally mentioning Capricorn6 - or some number - but as I didn't have full detail of how it fitted in I deleted it....must read the darn book! I'll try to find a cheapo used version to fill in the gaps.<br />Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-6169283031143239232014-03-29T13:38:21.231-05:002014-03-29T13:38:21.231-05:00P.S. When I googled "Logan's Run", ...P.S. When I googled "Logan's Run", I noticed a couple of references to "Capricorn 15" and "Capricorn 22", and eventually read how, in this future world, zodiac signs, rather than calendar months, were used to measure time. The story was written in the late 1960's after all!LB (again)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-29422587939085699492014-03-29T13:31:56.466-05:002014-03-29T13:31:56.466-05:00Great review, Twilight.:) I don't remember ev...Great review, Twilight.:) I don't remember ever seeing the movie, though Michael York immediately came to mind as soon as I saw the title of your post, so I must've seen parts. Based on your description, *parts* of it ("renewal") kind of remind me of *parts* of Cloud Atlas.<br /><br />Like you, I'd enjoy a remake - with Jeff Bridges in the role previously played by Peter Ustinov. <br /><br />I'm also with you on over-population. There was a time during the 1970's(?) when we talked about it being a problem and ways to deal with it proactively. Don't know what everyone is thinking.LBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-85664667451286314632014-03-29T12:39:27.051-05:002014-03-29T12:39:27.051-05:00mike ~ Hokey is a good description of it. :-) May...mike ~ Hokey is a good description of it. :-) Maybe sticking nearer to the novel's original storyline would solve that, if the planned re-make actually happens. I doubt a re-make would be hokey, but I fear it could be just another film filled with smash-bang-violent nastiness many of today's younger generation seem to love.<br /><br /><i>The Prisoner</i> - a classic cult-ish series that I never did get to see - it originated during a time in my life when I had no access to TV, then later on, when it was repeated or re-made, I must simply have missed it for some reason. I have seen clips from the original though, and had read or heard about it from friends. It might be worth seeking out DVDs or tapes ...I shall investigate.<br /><br /> Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-19063480033345569142014-03-29T10:59:35.916-05:002014-03-29T10:59:35.916-05:00I never saw the movie...I think it was considered ...I never saw the movie...I think it was considered a bit hokey when it first premiered.<br /><br />Your description has nuances of an old British TV series from the late 1960s that made its way to the USA. It fascinated me and captivated a wide audience of viewers...it was quite different for that era's typical TV programming. It was made into a miniseries in 2009.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner_%282009_TV_miniseries%29<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisonermikenoreply@blogger.com