tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post7355519522509491015..comments2024-03-17T03:42:21.277-05:00Comments on LEARNING CURVE ON THE ECLIPTIC: Mysteries of a Neptunian SortTwilighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-74194869796796728162015-09-21T10:23:53.806-05:002015-09-21T10:23:53.806-05:00mike (again) ~ I still have to read a few remaini...mike (again) ~ I still have to read a few remaining chapters - Part 3, but have remained engaged throughout (unusual for me in reading long screeds online). Although aware of much of the history piecemeal (& sketchily at best) it's so good to have it all compressed and combined in this way, so that patterns appear.<br />Thanks again for the link. :-)Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-21284642252854367082015-09-20T09:39:08.093-05:002015-09-20T09:39:08.093-05:00Thanks! No, I didn't realize his chart would ...Thanks! No, I didn't realize his chart would be available...most astrologers are guarded with their astro-info, I guess to not taint their clients' expectations, perceptions, or something. He was born two months before me...we both have the funnel-basket chart type with Jupiter as focus and share the slower-moving planets' positions within several degrees.<br /><br />I read through chapter 7 last night and will probably read the remainder today (rather than mow the grass...LOL). It's unfortunate...our loss...that his writing concludes with chapter 29. He is one of several astrologers that have not been allowed to publish their writing, due to their publishers' withdrawal and contract cancellation, supposedly from a lack of readership interest.mike (again)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-90545875572213223322015-09-20T08:58:38.846-05:002015-09-20T08:58:38.846-05:00mike(again) ~ I've just read the first 4 chap...mike(again) ~ I've just read the first 4 chapters of the Jenkins' online book. It's an easy read and an interesting one. shall be back for more later.<br /><br />Did you look at his natal chart? <br /><br />http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Jenkins,_Palden<br /><br />Sun Virgo and most natal planets between Gemini and Scorpio with just Jupiter adrift, in very early Pisces, acting as a "funnel" - that fits his philosophising very well! Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-61596983502052535152015-09-19T23:52:54.966-05:002015-09-19T23:52:54.966-05:00mike (again) ~ Thank you - the link is now bookmar...mike (again) ~ Thank you - the link is now bookmarked - I shall look forward to reading it a piece at a time. :-)Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-70447437557810771762015-09-19T20:07:39.690-05:002015-09-19T20:07:39.690-05:00"The Illustrated Guide to the
New Millennium
..."The Illustrated Guide to the<br />New Millennium<br /><br />What have we been through<br />and where are we going?<br /><br />Palden Jenkins<br /><br />I was commissioned to write this book in 1997-98 but the publishers decided against publication. Technical delays made it too late, and the publishers found that the Millennium was not going to be as sensational for book sales as they first expected.<br />Roughly half of the book's chapters were written, never going to print.<br /><br />The text of these chapters is presented here."<br /><br />http://www.palden.co.uk/newmillennium.htmlmike (again)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-26312840162233116872015-09-19T15:23:42.573-05:002015-09-19T15:23:42.573-05:00mike (again) ~ Ah yes - thanks. I'm not surp...mike (again) ~ Ah yes - thanks. I'm not surprised Mr Jenkins has investigated along those lines - and in fact the person on the message board to which I linked has probably copied the information from his website (or from someone else who had copied it from there). :-) I actually looked at Part 1 under "Configurations (etc)"<br /><br />This kind of thing sits better with me, seems more likely to be closer to what astrology is really telling us. It doesn't allocate specific areas to a particular outer planet. It relates to the really big stuff, not the more minute details of man's and history's doings. And maybe that's as it should be. Nobody knows for sure. <br /><br />What I like to think is that the outer 3 planets are markers for huge powerful waves of space/time which, when two or more occasionally combine can, like some metaphorical tidal wave, bring stuff in and take stuff away ("stuff" being anything and everything once can think of!)Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-41847007398113984862015-09-19T13:27:46.229-05:002015-09-19T13:27:46.229-05:00Palden Jenkins has data and discussions regarding ...Palden Jenkins has data and discussions regarding various stelliums over time (click on link, then go to the right-hand side, part 2, and select from each era. Stelliums are indicated by each conjunction pair, but listing all of the conjunctions for that date.<br /><br />http://www.palden.co.uk/historical-ephemeris.html<br /><br />I used to have a bookmark for a similar, very long discussion of synods and stelliums through history, which I think I've linked in one of my old comments here. I think the bookmark was lost, due to the last computer crash I had.mike (again)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-16646198535777487172015-09-19T12:11:04.002-05:002015-09-19T12:11:04.002-05:00Sabina ~ As commented to mike just now, I don'...Sabina ~ As commented to mike just now, I don't see us being anywhere near the Age of Aquarius yet, but everyone seems to have their own theory. :-)<br /><br />I can see how the Eleusinian Mysteries might be good inspiration for a novel writer! Thanks for the link - I shall investigate. Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-49620273818644548082015-09-19T12:07:33.903-05:002015-09-19T12:07:33.903-05:00mike ~ We've been over the Astrological Age st...mike ~ We've been over the Astrological Age stuff before - most recently<br />here.<br />http://twilightstarsong.blogspot.com/2015/07/what-time-is-it-quite-possibly-its.html<br /><br />And there are several older posts re Age of Aquarius in particular. This is one of those subjects where everyone has their own theory. I definitely don't think we're there yet - nor anywhere near, but we're heading in that direction, no doubt about that. Why people seem to think Age of Aquarius will be all that's wonderful puzzles me. Aquarius ain't all good, Saturn was its traditional ruler, and to my mind is still very relevant to the sign, more so than Uranus in fact, unless Uranus is linked well in the natal chart. That's just my opinion.<br /><br />mike (again)#2 ~ Hmmmm - yes I'm a bit cynical about some of those Neptune "rulerships", and think it's stretching it a bit. An argument could equally be made for Uranus or Pluto to be ruler of some of the later ones in the link. I'm suspicious about allocation of stuff to the three outer planets...has there been sufficient time to research the accuracy - has anyone even bothered to undertake that research? Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-81654218290813610612015-09-19T10:33:26.255-05:002015-09-19T10:33:26.255-05:00Re your comment regarding my first comment - Most ...Re your comment regarding my first comment - Most of what I presented as Neptunian concerns definitions of reality...heliocentric, Newton's laws allowed reality to be mathematically defined, evolution, quantum physics. Chemicals, petroleum, et al are Neptune ruled as is photography, and water (hence Suez Canal).<br /><br />See this link for properties of Neptune: http://www.librarising.com/astrology/misc/neptunepower.htmlmike (again)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-2637764565303002062015-09-19T10:30:57.924-05:002015-09-19T10:30:57.924-05:00As I understand it, we are living in the end times...As I understand it, we are living in the end times of the Piscean Age and may or may not live to see the arrival of the 'Age of Aquarius' - these ages lasting about 2,000 years each. Here is one account -<br /><br />http://www.ohotto.com/features/astrological_ages_tour.asp<br /><br />A fondly remembered childhood book, The Dancing Floor by John Buchan, invokes the Eleusinian Mysteries by way of the cult of Kore.<br /><br />http://www.vintagenovels.com/2012/09/the-dancing-floor-by-john-buchan.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-7566207162650632582015-09-19T10:24:49.358-05:002015-09-19T10:24:49.358-05:00BTW - Due to the precession of the vernal equinox ...BTW - Due to the precession of the vernal equinox and its movement from the Age of Pisces to the Age of Aquarius, at some point in each of Neptune's return to Pisces, Neptune will conjunct that vernal equinox point. Neptune takes 165 years to orbit the Sun and each Age is 2,150 years, which means that Neptune will make 13 solar rotations during that time, or about 2.3* each pass. Each time Neptune returns to Pisces, the true vernal equinox point has moved an additional 2.3* toward Aquarius.<br /><br />An interesting note about precession is that precession indicates the SIDEREAL position of the vernal equinox. Tropical astrology maintains the vernal equinox at 0* Aries, which corresponds to 23* to 25* Pisces by SIDEREAL astrology. For some reason, we tropical zodiac users are very concerned about when the sidereal Age of Aquarius begins...LOL.<br /><br />Re http://astro-calendar.com/shtml/Research/tropsidzodiacs2.shtmlmike (again)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-8484545290893381442015-09-19T09:52:26.687-05:002015-09-19T09:52:26.687-05:00mike ~ But isn't Uranus supposed to be the pla...mike ~ But isn't Uranus supposed to be the planet involved in all or most of the things you've listed? Mind you, I wouldn't be averse to discovering that the stuff attributed to Neptune, Uranus and Pluto, individually, isn't necessarily correctly attributed. I've never been 100% convinced on that score.<br /><br />I came across an interesting post yesterday on the message board at Bob Marks' website.<br />Not sure if this link will take you there:<br /><br />http://www.bobmarksastrologer.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12915<br /><br />It's the post by "woodwater" second one in the thread called "A Perfect Storm is Coming" - talking about outer planet stelliums.<br />That's a concept I haven't seen mentioned before. As well as the three farthest planets they use Saturn and Jupiter.Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-55540299038773294312015-09-19T08:37:40.259-05:002015-09-19T08:37:40.259-05:00The previous Neptune transits of Pisces, starting ...The previous Neptune transits of Pisces, starting with the Renaissance, brought scientific and industrial revolutions. Copernicus' heliocentricism of the early 1500s; Newton's laws of physics and calculus of the late 1600s; Charles Darwin on evolution, photographic innovations, Suez Canal started, the second industrial revolution began emphasizing chemicals and petroleum (kerosene first refined in 1847 and gasoline was a waste product); coal derivatives produced (paraffin, coal tar, naptha, lubricants).<br /><br />I think our current Neptune cycle is bringing a revolution in our understanding of the universe via quantum physics, as metaphysics is merging with reality, and reality is merging into the fantastical. The Higgs boson (god particle) was announced in 2012, as Neptune was in the early degrees of Pisces. Quantum teleportation and quantum computers were actualized in 2011-2012, as Neptune first entered Pisces. A revolution is upon us that will make the special effects of Star Trek mundane events in the near future.<br /><br />mikenoreply@blogger.com