tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post6253340264226444908..comments2024-03-17T03:42:21.277-05:00Comments on LEARNING CURVE ON THE ECLIPTIC: The USA's Charts & ChasmsTwilighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-59854837905741683622008-04-16T11:20:00.000-05:002008-04-16T11:20:00.000-05:00Hi there TNPOTUS!Thanks for the information. I've ...Hi there TNPOTUS!<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the information. I've obviously picked up an incomplete idea of what "neo-con" represents.<BR/><BR/>You'd think that Evangelics would be a more compassionate strand of the conservative group, bearing in mind the teachings of their ultimate leader, Jesus Christ - but there ya go - you never can tell!<BR/>;-)<BR/>John McCain comes over to me as a fairly compassionate person, but the trouble would be who he'd bring in with him, and into the Supreme Court if the worst were to happen and the Democrats grab defeat from the jaws of victory (as is looking ever more likely).Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-69533567702292026812008-04-16T10:51:00.000-05:002008-04-16T10:51:00.000-05:00Actually, the neo-cons are a more "liberal" wing o...Actually, the neo-cons are a more "liberal" wing of the modern conservative party. Although they have designs for a world that's basically ruled by the U.S., their social policies are pretty liberal compared to far right Evangelicals in the GOP. The REALLY CONSERVATIVE wing of the GOP is the Evangelics who are also stringent state's rights advocates and economic libertarians. At least, that's my interpretation of the Republicans. McCain, who was tutored by traditional conservative Barry Goldwater, falls somewhere in the middleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-12318918207990855212008-04-15T12:32:00.000-05:002008-04-15T12:32:00.000-05:00Dang!can't get the link to copy complete here!www....Dang!<BR/>can't get the link to copy complete here!<BR/><BR/>www.astrologyfiorthesoul.com/steffanvanel/karmageorgebush.htmlTwilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-45104595251453063692008-04-15T12:26:00.000-05:002008-04-15T12:26:00.000-05:00http://www.astrologyforthesoul.com/steffanvanel/ka...http://www.astrologyforthesoul.com/steffanvanel/karmageorgebush.htmlTwilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-53336369681559382562008-04-15T12:25:00.000-05:002008-04-15T12:25:00.000-05:00Hi WWWNo, I never have tried to deal with GWB's na...Hi WWW<BR/><BR/>No, I never have tried to deal with GWB's natal chart. I'm just not drawn to it, maybe I'm thinking it's water under the bridge. <BR/><BR/>There's a good article (link below) from 2004 by Steffan Vanel on GWB - he discusses karma also, a subject which I'm not very sure about. <BR/><BR/>He does say this:<BR/><I>"Examination of Bush’s Astrological birthchart reveals that he and our nation are both confronting similar challenges of identifying with our self image at the expense of our true natures and immersing ourselves in Neptunian illusion and deception at the expense of our compassion."</I>....which ties in with what you point out.<BR/><BR/>(That astrologer uses the 4 July 1776 chart for the USA with Sagittarius rising, which is different from the one I've chosen, but of course the Sun is in Cancer in both cases). <BR/><BR/>http://www.astrologyforthesoul.com/steffanvanel/karmageorgebush.html<BR/><BR/><BR/>I do think that a good proportion of people in the USA do feel guilt about what has and is being done in their names by their governments' admminstrations. I think in the present situation, re Iraq, they showed this when they voted in a Democratic House of Representatives in November 2006.<BR/>The snag has been that the Democrats in whom they put their trust have turned out to have feet of clay. It's all very odd, and hard to rationalise.Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-53974375247183664182008-04-15T11:00:00.000-05:002008-04-15T11:00:00.000-05:00Have you created a chart for Dubya, T? You may hav...Have you created a chart for Dubya, T? You may have, I might have missed it.<BR/>I find in the US however, there is a remarkable disconnect between reality and perception of that reality. A form of psychopathy. No guilt or remorse after violence and the creation of catastrophic upheaval and abuse of millions of children (see Korea, Vietnam, Iraq).<BR/>Just a few thoughts as I read the chart.<BR/>XO<BR/>WWWWisewebwomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15281689872840844191noreply@blogger.com