tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post3655100862000132765..comments2024-03-17T03:42:21.277-05:00Comments on LEARNING CURVE ON THE ECLIPTIC: "You say socialism like it's a bad thing!"Twilighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-58370024189029846992014-05-07T08:34:52.576-05:002014-05-07T08:34:52.576-05:00ex-Chomp ~ Hi! All true. Plus, socialism has be...ex-Chomp ~ Hi! All true. Plus, socialism has been equated with communism since Joe McCarthy poisoned minds here - that along with the good reason you've outlined still hangs over the USA like a murky cloud of distrust. <br /><br />Politics here is less violent than in Europe, because here the brainwash over many decades has taken a much firmer hold - that's my view anyway. :-/<br />Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-6675768445434406712014-05-07T04:03:55.996-05:002014-05-07T04:03:55.996-05:00Americans have been completely deviated about the ...Americans have been completely deviated about the real meaning of socialism which, in their opinion, is like dictatorship while it deals with a different way of organizing the economy. <br /><br />As you know, while politics in America is less violent than in Europe, in economy debates are viral and mad, a sort of sacred doctrine is involed in all this. <br /><br />And socialism touched the sacred milestone on which America has been founded, this narrative states, commonly accepted in America, that is the very point.<br /><br />So all is less surprising that in America common opinion about socialis is totally deviated. <br /> <br />ex-Chompnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-65849780027273961282014-05-02T18:41:37.885-05:002014-05-02T18:41:37.885-05:00David ~ Thank you! David ~ Thank you! Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-141394726348210932014-05-02T12:04:41.465-05:002014-05-02T12:04:41.465-05:00Nice blog and given the current political state in...Nice blog and given the current political state in the US quite brave. If only there were more posts like this one.Davidhttp://theoligarchkings.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-50747939236982904092014-05-01T21:41:21.274-05:002014-05-01T21:41:21.274-05:00LB ~ The three are all part of the Pluto in Pisces...LB ~ The three are all part of the Pluto in Pisces generation, and with Chiron, you're right - that would have added a strongly compassionate note to their more intellectually-based revolutionary theories. A good mixture for their times! <br /><br />Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-10469389312524874122014-05-01T21:31:42.998-05:002014-05-01T21:31:42.998-05:00mike ~ Yes, all the -isms look good in theory, unt...mike ~ Yes, all the -isms look good in theory, until we humans get at them and screw 'em up.<br /><br /> What seems to happen then is often a seesaw effect, total or modified - things gradually go all one way, either to extreme tipping point or almost there, resulting in either bloody revolution or some crafty "just enough to keep the peasants quiet" changes, or negotiation/deception among leaders. i.e. attempt to find some balance, or an all-out forced reversal of direction, depending on depth of passions aroused, level of discomfort and injustice felt, and temperament of those involved.<br /><br />We should be coming up for one or t'other within the next decade or two, unless changes occur which are out of human control. It'll be unlikely to follow old patterns exactly though. I doubt we shall ever see the likes of the three men feature this post again.<br /><br />Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-21731631770930862762014-05-01T13:07:27.186-05:002014-05-01T13:07:27.186-05:00Twilight ~ I notice all three men have strongly as...Twilight ~ I notice all three men have strongly aspected Chirons in Pisces - also Pluto in Pisces. <br /><br />Hess and Engels also had significant oppositions involving Chiron and Pluto along the Virgo-Pisces axis. <br /><br />I think Uranus/Aquarius can sometimes get lost in the world of big ideas and abstract concepts, with little patience for practical details or effort - and with less compassion for (and/or awareness of) the needs of the individual. Placements along the Virgo-Pisces/6th-12th axis might have informed their passion for social justice in more practical, compassionate ways. <br /><br />Having natal Pluto in Pisces must have a similar feel to natal Pluto in the 12th - I know how that feels.LBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-67210323898703099932014-05-01T09:19:17.688-05:002014-05-01T09:19:17.688-05:00It's interesting that humans have always allow...It's interesting that humans have always allowed or required a hierarchy of power and-or control. The notion of individual, social, economic, and political freedom is extolled, but not practiced, which is ironic...the unachievable goal. All of the "-isms" work perfectly on paper, but miserably fall apart when applied.<br /><br />The dominant male-female syndrome with sub-group rankings found throughout most animal species is part of the human DNA, too, and apparently impossible to intellectually over-rule at this point in our evolution, if ever. This game of thrones and followers is found in all groupings: economic, political, religious, employment, etc.<br /><br />The Japanese have some interesting aspects applied to business management: "ringiseido", which distributes decision making practices more homogeneously, but still maintains levels of power. Perhaps this is reflected in their politics and social ordering, too. The Japanese have never been exempt from power abuses, but have historically integrated more equanimity into their social orderings.<br /><br />Greed, avarice, and that dirty X-gene prevent humans from experiencing the benefits of any excellent concepts, whether communism, socialism, or capitalism. All three have excellent merit and if one truly ponders and contrasts each with the others, they essentially have the same end-result. The humans get in the way of the practical application. Humans are not inherently capable of sharing resources equally, which would result in a level social, economic, and political ordering.<br /><br />Sex, drugs, and money make the world go 'round.<br />mikenoreply@blogger.com