tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post1056277815885882046..comments2024-03-17T03:42:21.277-05:00Comments on LEARNING CURVE ON THE ECLIPTIC: Conceits - Concepts of the MindTwilighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-58214124967686308192015-05-20T00:01:30.280-05:002015-05-20T00:01:30.280-05:00mike (again) ~ You're a far more experienced r...mike (again) ~ You're a far more experienced reader than I am, so I'll take your word for it. :-)<br /><br />Professional jealously happens, then - even between the best of 'em!Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-42558764725507157482015-05-19T22:44:37.697-05:002015-05-19T22:44:37.697-05:00Not to sound conceited (LOL), but Faulkner doesn&#...Not to sound conceited (LOL), but Faulkner doesn't use many $10 words in his poetry and novels. His writing style is considered complex syntax and Hemingway's style is considered simple syntax. Both authors wrote American classics, both won a Nobel Prize in Literature, and Faulkner won an additional two Pulitzers.<br /><br /><br />"Though the two writers never met, they corresponded through letters and were always conscious of the other's reputation. Hemingway was a fiercely competitive writer. He used to compare his reign in writing to the reign of a heavyweight boxing champion. In Faulkner, Hemingway found a serious opponent, one who could very well threaten his self-proclaimed title of 'The Champ.' Faulkner won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1949 (though was awarded it formally in 1950), and two Pulitzer Prizes, one in 1955 for his novel, A Fable and one awarded posthumously for The Reivers (1962). Faulkner also holds the distinction of co-writing one of the best screenplays for Hemingway's novels. In the 1944 film, To Have and Have Not, Lauren Bacall says to Humphrey Bogart: 'You know how to whistle, don't you, Steve? You just put your lips together and blow.' We have Faulkner to thank, in part, for that memorable line.<br /><br />As with many of his writing contemporaries, Hemingway both praised and criticized Faulkner. At times, he called him 'the best of us all' and wished he had his talent. At other times, he said that one could not reread Faulkner and had to 'wade through a lot of crap to get to his gold.' Tension between the two mounted in 1947 when Faulkner made a seemingly innocent remark about Hemingway's courage (from a literary perspective), stating that the author has 'never climbed out on a limb' and 'never used a word where the reader might check his usage by a dictionary.' True to form, Hemingway took this as an attack on his manhood and went as far as to have one of his distinguished military friends, Colonel Charles T. (Buck) Lanham send Faulkner his own eyewitness accounts of Hemingway's 'grace under pressure.' Faulkner later apologized."<br />http://www.timelesshemingway.com/content/literaryrelationshipsfaqmike (again)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-56347053834541300122015-05-19T13:19:49.878-05:002015-05-19T13:19:49.878-05:00Anonymous/kidd ~ "Puffed up" are yer, k...Anonymous/kidd ~ "Puffed up" are yer, kidd? Well, well, well - you're the rare bird I mentioned in reply to mike (above) - I enjoy the sight of a rare bird. <br /><br />Agreed about #2 ;-D<br /><br />Trust Mugsy to have it down pat. That's the best definition yet. He should get himself a job at the Oxford Dic. <br /><br />No, I cannot imagine that! It could be interesting to be a fly on the wall though, or a server listening in (more my fit).<br />Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-40807464858553421612015-05-19T13:07:10.189-05:002015-05-19T13:07:10.189-05:00LB ~ Yes - that's true! The novel is likely t...LB ~ Yes - that's true! The novel is likely to expand more on Mary Bee Cuddy's personality - one of these days I shall find a copy and read it.<br /><br />It is powerful, agreed - I'm surprised it didn't get more of a fanfare when first released.Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-16860538462425642712015-05-19T13:02:59.730-05:002015-05-19T13:02:59.730-05:00mike ~ I agree that we all experience a touch of, ...mike ~ I agree that we all experience a touch of, perhaps private, conceit about some aspect of ourselves at certain points in our lives, and that it could equally be dfined as pride or satisfaction of a challenge met or job done well. Someone conceited about all facets and aspects of themself has to surely be a very rare bird, or so I suspect.<br /><br />And yes, blogging itself is a conceit, I guess.<br /><br />Well...thanks some new words to me in your 4th para. I'd come across simulacrum before but not the other two. And I wasn't aware of the "hambuger" term for that little three dash icon on my toolbar (an icon I've never used).<br /><br />High fallutin' words have their place...somewhere... but I'm with <br />Hemingway and King :-) ~~~<br /><br /><i>“Poor Faulkner. Does he really think big emotions come from big words? He thinks I don’t know the ten-dollar words. I know them all right. But there are older and simpler and better words, and those are the ones I use.” </i> Ernest Hemingway<br /><br /><i>“Any word you have to hunt for in a thesaurus is the wrong word. There are no exceptions to this rule.” </i><br />Stephen KingTwilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-61852716129728056352015-05-19T12:51:44.824-05:002015-05-19T12:51:44.824-05:00Conceit ...
For the Oxfordian view ...
I find mys...Conceit ...<br /><br />For the Oxfordian view ...<br />I find myself in possession of number 1, in no small measure ...<br />... As for number two ... its ongoing effluence is continuous ...<br /><br /><br />Mugsy says it's also "Where the criminals sit"<br /><br /><br /><br />As for poesy ...<br />Can you imagine being at table with Oscar and Lord Byron?<br /><br />https://youtu.be/YDOM13FI1jk<br /><br /><br />kidd.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-66327002931007358722015-05-19T12:11:56.414-05:002015-05-19T12:11:56.414-05:00We watched "The Homesman" last night. Th...We watched "The Homesman" last night. The character played by Hilary Swank was an example of someone fully aware of (and honest about) her strengths and weaknesses - based on other people's perceptions and values and without conceit. Aside from the superficial values imposed upon her as a woman, I don't think realized her true and innate worth as a person. Or maybe she did.<br /><br />It's a powerful movie.LBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16659850.post-67730823704335540022015-05-19T10:02:24.073-05:002015-05-19T10:02:24.073-05:00Defining conceit as an overblown ego, I'd say ...Defining conceit as an overblown ego, I'd say that most individuals employ that condition at various times. It's another one of those "in the eyes of the beholder", as rarely does one consider their own, personal conceit to themselves...we are more likely to think that we are proud (satisfied) rather than conceited (excessive). It takes one ego to recognize it in the other, which may be a case of double conceit.<br /><br />Your essay today is, in itself, a conceit..."an idea, an opinion, an imagination, a device"...the conceit of the word conceit...LOL!<br /><br />Language skills ain't what they used to be. Our modern era tends to punish an author using fancy, high-falutin words or the lesser known meaning of common words, as if the author-speaker is at fault and not the reader-listener. That author-speaker is prone to be viewed as pretentious, conceited, and-or possibly stupid. It seems the game now is to reduce common word phrases into acronyms.<br /><br />Last night, I read an article about the hamburger icon (the common menu icon on most digital devices):<br />http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31602745<br />The word skeuomorph was used at the end of the article:<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeuomorph<br />And this led to mimesis:<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimesis<br />And this led to simulacrum:<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacrum<br /><br />I've become too fragile in the brain to retain new words, the same for names of new acquaintances, if I don't use them frequently. I enjoy reading unfamiliar words that perfectly convey a meaning or thought that more common words wouldn't have sufficed.mikenoreply@blogger.com